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Rhd-xj 11-05-2013 07:24 PM

strengthening stock d30 axle shaft u-joints
 
well today i encounter a fierce opponent with my rig and sadly lost, drove into a deep steep sided ditch haha:boxing: ended up getting stuck in the jeep without 4x4, my front axle shaft u joints completely broke off inner and outter :cursing: so had to call a couple different buddys to see who was available, and the ram squad showed up :gun_bandana: (96' single cab 4x4 5.9, and 06' 4 door hemi 4x4) my buddys single cab got me out and i was able to limp home..

now i searched for an alternative to my issue without having to dish out money for new stronger axle shafts, or upgrading axle completely, when my buddy told me about metal strengthening, i was curious and looked it up, found that its not to hard to strengthen by 'double'!!!!!! i plan on making a trip to the jy to get axle shafts for both sides and try to make them 'stronger', if anyone has done this, or has heard of someone doing this give me some feedback and or info, the procedure doesnt seem hard, just time consuming, will be posting pics tomorrow!!!

Red82 11-05-2013 07:51 PM

Not fab. Moved to chat.

mrfajita 11-05-2013 11:13 PM

Does your rig have ABS? If not, pull some ABS shafts from a 93 or newer Dana 30 (92 and older have the vacuum disconnect BS) and put some new spicer joints in. The ABS model shafts take a stronger 297x U joint than the non ABS with 260x joints.

94XjSport94 11-06-2013 05:55 AM

Get shafts and throw in 760x u joints and grind the shafts to accept full circle clips.

Metal strengthening these shafts is BS.

XJwonders 11-06-2013 06:37 AM

So that is a spicer part #760? Is it easily available in parts stores?

PocketsEmpty 11-06-2013 07:09 AM

Let's step back a moment. OP didn't mention the year of his XJ. Don't the newer models have stronger axles/u-joints from the factory?

I need to google this topic..

94XjSport94 11-06-2013 09:15 AM


Originally Posted by XJwonders (Post 2666858)
So that is a spicer part #760? Is it easily available in parts stores?

Probably, I don't know off the top of my head. Normally cheaper to order an have delivered a few days later.

95+ came with the 297 u joints
Before that was the smaller joint (number just slipped my mind), unless it had ABS brakes. Then it got the bigger joint.

XJwonders 11-06-2013 09:24 AM

Is this for driveshafts or axle shafts?

PocketsEmpty 11-06-2013 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by 94XjSport94 (Post 2666996)
Probably, I don't know off the top of my head. Normally cheaper to order an have delivered a few days later.

95+ came with the 297 u joints
Before that was the smaller joint (number just slipped my mind), unless it had ABS brakes. Then it got the bigger joint.

I'll take a big joint, if you got one. https://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/...merv/joint.gif :laughing:

mrfajita 11-07-2013 09:42 PM


Originally Posted by 94XjSport94 (Post 2666996)

Probably, I don't know off the top of my head. Normally cheaper to order an have delivered a few days later.

95+ came with the 297 u joints
Before that was the smaller joint (number just slipped my mind), unless it had ABS brakes. Then it got the bigger joint.

Spicer replaced the 297 with the 760 in the early 2000s. Exactly same joint but they are supposedly better metal so they are stronger

Atmos 11-07-2013 11:44 PM

everything you need to know about upgrading to 760's
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/blue-prius-131319/index12/#post2058717

offroadordnance 11-08-2013 04:23 PM

Polishing and shot peening the ears should help to prevent deformation,elongation, stress fractures, etc. Problem is most shops don't do this any more.

Centralgrand 11-08-2013 08:18 PM

I would of course recommend the 760 joints, and get yourself some quality ujoints like good ol Spicers. There's a reason most aftermarket chromo shaft assemblies come w/ 'em standard...

I've personally witnessed 2 broken shafts due to the fact they spit out a ujoint cap, so either tack welding the cap or throwing on one of those "almost alloy kits" (think I paid $30) will do the job. Think I got 'em from iron Rock. You can't beat 'em for $30... worth my time in money and they fit awesome. That's currently my spare setup should I lose a chromo...

So... Spicer joints, weld the caps and use and abuse... if that doesn't cut it, then you better step up the shafts to chromos or find a find a bigger axle...

skife 11-20-2013 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by Atmos (Post 2669021)
everything you need to know about upgrading to 760's
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f46/blue-prius-131319/index12/#post2058717

So, removing metal from the shaft to make room for new clips makes them stronger? Got'cha...

Atmos 11-20-2013 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by skife (Post 2680855)
So, removing metal from the shaft to make room for new clips makes them stronger? Got'cha...

:laughing:

dont be stupid. it's to make the ujoint stronger. or really, just make it impossible to have a cap go flying off and take the whole shaft with it. 95-01 d30 shafts are plenty strong enough even on 35" tires. shaving a bit off the inner ear is no big deal just dont go overboard

skife 11-20-2013 08:37 PM


Originally Posted by Atmos (Post 2681029)
:laughing:

dont be stupid. it's to make the ujoint stronger. or really, just make it impossible to have a cap go flying off and take the whole shaft with it. 95-01 d30 shafts are plenty strong enough even on 35" tires. shaving a bit off the inner ear is no big deal just dont go overboard

I'd rather just use the tack weld option and carry spares on the trail.

Aljay 11-20-2013 10:08 PM

I will get another set and deburr the ears and grind alittle for the 760x u joints + tack washers on .
My 01 has the bigger shafts but I will do the above .

driveshaftron 11-22-2013 05:48 PM

Re: 6029970906
 
i can mod the pinion yolk guarintied 2o yrs exp

94XjSport94 11-22-2013 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by driveshaftron (Post 2683613)
i can mod the pinion yolk guarintied 2o yrs exp

Wouldn't let you work on anything I own if your spelling and grammar reflect on your work.

Were also mostly talking about axle shafs...

Atmos 11-22-2013 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by skife (Post 2681669)
I'd rather just use the tack weld option and carry spares on the trail.

same idea basically. nothing wrong with either method. trail spares should always be carried when using D30


Originally Posted by Aljay (Post 2681798)
I will get another set and deburr the ears and grind alittle for the 760x u joints + tack washers on .
My 01 has the bigger shafts but I will do the above .

I'll never understand the tack on washer thing. you're just making it so you can never change your ujoint unless you grind it off :dunno: the full circle clips will hold it there guaranteed and you can service it later if need be


Originally Posted by driveshaftron (Post 2683613)
i can mod the pinion yolk guarintied 2o yrs exp

I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home

Centralgrand 11-22-2013 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by Atmos (Post 2683676)
I'll never understand the tack on washer thing. you're just making it so you can never change your ujoint unless you grind it off :dunno:

Very true.. you'd have to hit it w/ a zippy wheel as I call 'em


I would of course recommend the 760 joints, and get yourself some quality ujoints like good ol Spicers. There's a reason most aftermarket chromo shaft assemblies come w/ 'em standard...

I've personally witnessed 2 broken shafts due to the fact they spit out a ujoint cap, so either tack welding the cap or throwing on one of those "almost alloy kits" (think I paid $30) will do the job. Think I got 'em from iron Rock. You can't beat 'em for $30... worth my time in money and they fit awesome. That's currently my spare setup should I lose a chromo...

So... Spicer joints, weld the caps and use and abuse... if that doesn't cut it, then you better step up the shafts to chromos or find a find a bigger axle...
Of course these are dedicated spares... They are for getting me home or throughout the rest of my trip(3 days sometimes)... God forbid I break a chromo at least I know I'm not throwin in junk...

The shafts were my old ones... bought the "new" Spicers online for $50 I think, and the Iron rock "almost alloy kit" was $30... so for about 75 bucks I got some shafts I know I won't have to baby home...

Anyhow, I'll swear by the setup... anything else is a waste.. or upgrade to chromos.

driveshaftron 11-23-2013 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by 94XjSport94 (Post 2683658)
Wouldn't let you work on anything I own if your spelling and grammar reflect on your work.

Were also mostly talking about axle shafs...

im sorry my grammer sucks thats what happens when you start working a summer job at a driveline shop at 16 and never left you a hole

driveshaftron 11-23-2013 10:26 AM

my bad axel shafts i build them to bridgports can do any thing

94XjSport94 11-23-2013 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by driveshaftron (Post 2684232)
im sorry my grammer sucks thats what happens when you start working a summer job at a driveline shop at 16 and never left you a hole

You couldn't have taken an English class? Or English as a second language course, sometimes those are free.

Demonoid369 11-23-2013 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by driveshaftron (Post 2684232)
im sorry my grammer sucks thats what happens when you start working a summer job at a driveline shop at 16 and never left you a hole

Summer job..... Meaning you couldn't learn how to spell fairly properly or good ish grammar during the rest of the year? Lol

driveshaftron 11-25-2013 09:51 AM

driveshafts
 
you guys wana talk shop ive got 20yrs exp if not dont waste my time im not 10yrs old

kgm 11-25-2013 09:58 AM

Professionalism! :smartass:

94XjSport94 11-25-2013 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by driveshaftron (Post 2686125)
you guys wana talk shop ive got 20yrs exp if not dont waste my time im not 10yrs old

Your time? Lol. That means "laugh out loud"

skife 11-25-2013 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by 94XjSport94 (Post 2686298)
Your time? Lol. That means "laugh out loud"

guy can't type worth beans, but i'd bet he knows a hell of a lot more about drivelines than you do.

94XjSport94 11-25-2013 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by skife (Post 2686686)
guy can't type worth beans, but i'd bet he knows a hell of a lot more about drivelines than you do.

I know everything concerning my driveline that i need to with my XJ so that's fine by me. I graduated high school.

Demonoid369 11-25-2013 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by 94XjSport94 (Post 2686910)
I know everything concerning my driveline that i need to with my XJ so that's fine by me. I graduated high school.

Lmao

Centralgrand 11-26-2013 12:31 AM

Lock this ***** up... :sneaky2:


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