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Rushin 01-14-2011 09:40 AM

Recommend a good, cheap, lightweight aluminum wheels
 
Looking for a different set of wheels. I just got a set of 15x8 Soft 8s and they are outrageously heavy! Just way too heavy for daily driving. they are pretty much twice the wight of stock wheels. I can tell that gas mileage went down and the truck works harder to get up to speed.

So i am looking for a different set of wheels and i am not going to get steel wheels anymore. Looking to get a set of aluminum wheel that are 15x8 with a 4 or 4.5 back spacing. Price wise, not looking to spend more than $400.

The truck is pretty not used for off roading i wish i offroaded it more but there is no where to go in the middle of Twin Cities :-(

Anyone had good luck with 4x4groupbuy.com?

jcwclm 01-14-2011 11:32 AM

cheapest you can get alum wheels is about $100 a pop. I really couldn't see how you had a change in mileage because of a little more weight in wheels.

Ol' Bloo 01-14-2011 11:46 AM

I just bought some stock jeep alloy's from it seems a 94' and they're doing just fine. It all depends on preference.

Rushin 01-14-2011 12:28 PM

Unsprung weight makes a big difference. On lighter cars its huge. Like with my Miata, stock wheels are about 9 pounds, ones I have on there right now are 20 pounds. I really felt the difference in acceleration and braking.

jcwclm 01-14-2011 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Rushin (Post 811367)
Unsprung weight makes a big difference. On lighter cars its huge. Like with my Miata, stock wheels are about 9 pounds, ones I have on there right now are 20 pounds. I really felt the difference in acceleration and braking.

Ya, on a miata. With what a 4 banger in it? I'm guessing the OP has a 4.0, which has quite a bit more power than a miata.

420blackxj 01-14-2011 01:07 PM

Did you have steelies on to begin with?
I only ask because I have 15x8, black D's, and if I remember correctly, they are not much heavier than a stock steelie.

Where you at in the TC, I live in St. Paul:)

Rock Toy 01-14-2011 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by jcwclm (Post 811406)
Ya, on a miata. With what a 4 banger in it? I'm guessing the OP has a 4.0, which has quite a bit more power than a miata.

The Cherokee also weighs more than a Miata, and the I6, 4.0 engine isn't a HP or torque monster.

The best inexpensive aluminum wheel I've had were Ultra wheels. They were pressure cast and good for 3200 lbs in a 17x9 inch 8 lug wheel.

jcwclm 01-14-2011 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Rock Toy (Post 811434)
The Cherokee also weighs more than a Miata, and the I6, 4.0 engine isn't a HP or torque monster.

The best inexpensive aluminum wheel I've had were Ultra wheels. They were pressure cast and good for 3200 lbs in a 17x9 inch 8 lug wheel.

So, you're trying to tell me that the weight difference between some aluminum wheels and some soft 8's of the same size will decrease your gas mileage in a noticable effect? Lets say that there's oh, about 80 lbs total difference? Thats actually sound a little high to me actually but we will use it. So lets say you have the alum. wheels on. You throw your (what weighs 80 lbs?, a 10 yr old?) in to make up for the extra weight of the steelies. You drive the same condtions and let me know if you notice a difference in gas mileage. I'd say prolly not even a 1/4 mpg.

Rock Toy 01-14-2011 02:27 PM

I'm not trying to tell you anything. You made a statement about the difference between the 4 cylinder Miata and the Jeep I6 4.0 engine. I stated that the Cherokees weight was more and that the Jeep 4.0 liter engine isn't a horsepower or torque monster. I have no idea what the mpg difference would be between a heavy steel wheel and an aluminum wheel would be, nor do I care.

jcwclm 01-14-2011 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Rock Toy (Post 811530)
I'm not trying to tell you anything. You made a statement about the difference between the 4 cylinder Miata and the Jeep I6 4.0 engine. I stated that the Cherokees weight was more and that the Jeep 4.0 liter engine isn't a horsepower or torque monster. I have no idea what the mpg difference would be between a heavy steel wheel and an aluminum wheel would be, nor do I care.

Then you obviously didn't get my point. With a vehicle of our weight and a 4.0 you really couldn't tell the difference between steel and alum wheels. Now its totally different story when you throw tires in it.

Rock Toy 01-14-2011 02:51 PM

Like I said, I don't care about the mileage difference between steel and aluminum. The OP asked for cheap aluminum rims.
You stated that the Miata had a 4 banger engine, I just stated that it weighed less and the Jeep I6 4.0 engine wasn't a horsepower nor a torque monster. I bought my Jeeps for wheeling. I do not care what kind of mileage I get within reason as long as they work off road, I use aluminum rims because they hold a bead better on an aired down tire than a steel rim.

Rushin 01-14-2011 03:00 PM

My Miata actually has more hp and probably torque than a 4.0l Cherokee. Last time I dynoed it I put down 200hp and 197 torque. Its got a little snail. And I still can tell he different between 9lbs wheels and 20lbs wheels.

0IIII0 01-14-2011 03:08 PM

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Just bought these from a guy today for 150.00 ,they've never been mounted, 5 altogether , they weigh next to nothing probably 6lbs each if I had to guess......I am about to prep for paint now.....the deals are out there just have to look....

Rushin 01-14-2011 04:16 PM


Originally Posted by 0IIII0 (Post 811598)
Just bought these from a guy today for 150.00 ,they've never been mounted, 5 altogether , they weigh next to nothing probably 6lbs each if I had to guess......I am about to prep for paint now.....the deals are out there just have to look....

Man, they look great. What are they?

Tural 01-14-2011 04:24 PM

check out "Ion 71"s. i paid 350 for them shipped to my door. got here in 3 days. lifetime warranty. 17lbs. a piece.
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/member...1-img-3314.jpg

WJDave 01-14-2011 04:28 PM

I can't believe someone on here admitted to owning a Miata! :)

Pistol-McGee 01-14-2011 04:39 PM


Originally Posted by WJDave (Post 811689)
I can't believe someone on here admitted to owning a Miata! :)

Is there something wrong with miatas? THose things are practially gokarts on steroids.

jcwclm 01-14-2011 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Rushin
My Miata actually has more hp and probably torque than a 4.0l Cherokee. Last time I dynoed it I put down 200hp and 197 torque. Its got a little snail. And I still can tell he different between 9lbs wheels and 20lbs wheels.

Whatever you say dude!

Rushin 01-14-2011 05:08 PM

Those are nice. What backspacing they come and and where did you get them?

grassyknoll 01-15-2011 12:29 AM


I can't believe someone on here admitted to owning a Miata! :)
Another XJ & Miata owner here. Funny thing is the XJ and Miata are kinda' alike in that they are sometimes snobishly dismissed by other 4-wheelers/sports car owners.

Just as there is nothing better than out wheeling a $30k rig in your $4k XJ, there is nothing better than losing a $60k Porsche in the twisties in a $5k Miata.
If Rushin is pushing 200 whp in a Miata, his power to weight ratio would mean he can easily tangle with Boxters and the like.

And yes, wheel weight makes a big difference that you can feel. Even a few lbs a wheel is noticeable.

just my $.02

jcwclm 01-15-2011 03:47 AM


Originally Posted by grassyknoll (Post 812307)
Another XJ & Miata owner here. Funny thing is the XJ and Miata are kinda' alike in that they are sometimes snobishly dismissed by other 4-wheelers/sports car owners.

Just as there is nothing better than out wheeling a $30k rig in your $4k XJ, there is nothing better than losing a $60k Porsche in the twisties in a $5k Miata.
If Rushin is pushing 200 whp in a Miata, his power to weight ratio would mean he can easily tangle with Boxters and the like.

And yes, wheel weight makes a big difference that you can feel. Even a few lbs a wheel is noticeable.

just my $.02

On a miata.

mdcmn7 01-15-2011 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Tural (Post 811687)
check out "Ion 71"s. i paid 350 for them shipped to my door. got here in 3 days. lifetime warranty. 17lbs. a piece.
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/member...1-img-3314.jpg

Those wheels looks awesome

mdcmn7 01-15-2011 07:36 AM

ZJ wheels $20 a piece. I think they are heavier than the steel stockers

https://www.cherokeeforum.com/member...new-height.jpg

Tural 01-15-2011 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by mdcmn7 (Post 812463)
Those wheels looks awesome

thanx.

Rushin 01-15-2011 10:05 PM

Been looking around and it looks like no one really makes wheels in 4" or 4.5" backspacing. All wheels I see are 3.75". :-(

91 limited owner 01-16-2011 07:43 AM

Go to JY, look for factory offered alloys. Or check craigslist.

88MJ.uggernaut 01-16-2011 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by grassyknoll (Post 812307)
Funny thing is the XJ and Miata are kinda' alike in that they are sometimes snobishly dismissed by other 4-wheelers/sports car owners.

Just as there is nothing better than out wheeling a $30k rig in your $4k XJ, there is nothing better than losing a $60k Porsche in the twisties in a $5k Miata.
If Rushin is pushing 200 whp in a Miata, his power to weight ratio would mean he can easily tangle with Boxters and the like.

And yes, wheel weight makes a big difference that you can feel. Even a few lbs a wheel is noticeable.

just my $.02

I totally agree with this statement! And on a vehicle as small as a Miata, Im very sure you would feel the diference in wheel weight.

Tural 01-16-2011 09:22 AM


Originally Posted by Rushin (Post 813552)
Been looking around and it looks like no one really makes wheels in 4" or 4.5" backspacing. All wheels I see are 3.75". :-(

why do u need more backspacing?

Rushin 01-17-2011 08:39 AM

I just don't really like how the wheels stick out 2" past the fenders. I can live with 4" backspacing but 3.75 will be too much.

jcwclm 01-17-2011 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Rushin (Post 815620)
I just don't really like how the wheels stick out 2" past the fenders. I can live with 4" backspacing but 3.75 will be too much.

1/4"? haha. You really couldn't tell the difference honestly. Not without focusing very hard.

Tural 01-17-2011 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by jcwclm (Post 815622)
1/4"? haha. You really couldn't tell the difference honestly. Not without focusing very hard.

x2. and also, with a lift kit you would kinda need your wheels to stick out more, because you need to go out as much as you go up, if not more.

Rushin 01-18-2011 12:29 AM

4" is already too much for the front axle. The rear is perfect but front is sticking way too much. I should just get a set of fender flares.


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