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Old 03-07-2011, 05:57 PM
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i have jeep cherokee 1994 turbo diseal 2.5,and my problem is i have change the car ingine(only) to toyota 5L,2.8 ingine.so after this the car is not moving fast u will hear the ingine making noise but the car is not moving fast.
so some guys told me i have to change the differential Ring And Pinion.i need ur sujestion pls.its original no. of Ring And Pinion is 41 by 10.
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What ? Haha sorry didn't catch any of that but I think you may mean engine ?
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So the engine makes a noise when it gets louder? Maybe it can be a bad motor mount. I'm sort of confused with the question
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Originally Posted by Raffobaghdo
So the engine makes a noise when it gets louder? Maybe it can be a bad motor mount. I'm sort of confused with the question
what i mean is while u r driving the engine sound is loud and the car is not moving fast.u feel like u r driving shift 1 and 2 (for manual shift)
and the changed engine is good condition.
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So your rpm's are high and your speed is slow? Auto transmission?
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So your rpm's are high and your speed is slow? Auto transmission?
yes,and its manual 5 spd
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Did you smoke the clutch in it? If your in gear and try to accelerate does the engine just rev up as if there's no load on the engine ?
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From what I can understand, it sounds like your clutch is worn out.
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Originally Posted by XtreamJ
Did you smoke the clutch in it? If your in gear and try to accelerate does the engine just rev up as if there's no load on the engine ?
no,i think it doesnt have that much difference.
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I really have no idea what your trying to say :/ where are you from ?
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Originally Posted by XtreamJ
I really have no idea what your trying to say :/ where are you from ?
So then stop trying to figure it out.

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Where hes from does not pertain to the problem at hand.
So it doesnt matter.


Originally Posted by bruk
what i mean is while u r driving the engine sound is loud and the car is not moving fast.u feel like u r driving shift 1 and 2 (for manual shift)
and the changed engine is good condition.
Sounds like transmission problems, maybe bad clutch disc or pressure plate.
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Originally Posted by XtreamJ
I really have no idea what your trying to say :/ where are you from ?
ok,maybe i didnt get ur point,but one thing that am sure is the engine which i change is in good condition.the clutch disc,pressure plate and transmition box is good again the Ring And Pinion r also good.
so i think the problem is a gear ratio,cause i only change the engine not the transmition box.the toyota 5L engine with jeep transmition box.so maybe they r not compatable.
so they ask me to change Ring And Pinion or the transmition box with same toyota 5L.
here is detail on the car
engine toyota 5L 2.8 diseal
tire size 235/75R15
Ring And Pinion 41x10 teeth
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What is the maximum RPM of both engines? (assuming both are diesel..)
Does it have a tach?
How many RPM does it turn at say 60mph or 100 kph?
Its possible you may just have a fueling issue and its not getting enough fuel to make anymore RPM, thus starving for fuel.

If you can answer those questions it will be a good start.

Okay I see the answers above.....
4.10 gears is LOW for a low rpm diesel.
If the engine pulled out turned 3500rpm and this one 2800 rpm your going to have re-gear it with some 3.07's to get the cruising speed up.
3.07's are easy to find from a stock 4.0 5 speed XJ, but not sure what type of rear end they would have used, or if the lowly D35 would hold up with diesel torque.

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Originally Posted by Caish
What is the maximum RPM of both engines? (assuming both are diesel..)
Does it have a tach?
How many RPM does it turn at say 60mph or 100 kph?
Its possible you may just have a fueling issue and its not getting enough fuel to make anymore RPM, thus starving for fuel.

If you can answer those questions it will be a good start.

Okay I see the answers above.....
4.10 gears is LOW for a low rpm diesel.
If the engine pulled out turned 3500rpm and this one 2800 rpm your going to have re-gear it with some 3.07's to get the cruising speed up.
3.07's are easy to find from a stock 4.0 5 speed XJ, but not sure what type of rear end they would have used, or if the lowly D35 would hold up with diesel torque.
about the previous engine rpm i have no idea but for the one which i change is 2400rpm.so do u think 3.07's(43x14) will feet good for cruising speed.
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4.10 gears with a diesel = stump puller!

That gear ratio is too tall for a 5 spd diesel DD.


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