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zombiehunter99 05-18-2015 04:55 PM

homemade flag pole mount.
 
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...494ce12fa1.jpg


Fabed myself a flag pole mount for the back of my xj. Mounted to the hitch.
i might start making more...

93XJeeper 05-18-2015 07:41 PM

Merica

sycoglitch 05-18-2015 09:08 PM

You should really post pics of the mount since you posted in the fab section. Hope that flag is on there tight, driving poses a lot of force which can make that thing a javelin of freedom

Jeep Squad 05-18-2015 09:18 PM

Nice flag that matches the jeep. :D

jbsjunk 05-18-2015 10:00 PM

Wouldn't work in Michigan. They require them on the front.

zombiehunter99 05-19-2015 08:34 AM

Im going to post some pics of the mount at work now. Ive been driving on freeway at 70 mph its holding well ill post pics soon

zombiehunter99 05-19-2015 08:37 AM

The flag is attached to eye loops which is bolted to the pole and i used. Mini d rings to attach the flag to the eye holes will post pics soon

zombiehunter99 05-19-2015 10:10 AM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...6c7da9ffad.jpg


The mount i fabed up. A draw bar with hitch ball cut off and pole welded to ball mount. I couldnt get the hole drilled out big enough to put pole through so i came up with this. Welded brace for support. The pole slides into mount and took another pipe to make it more sturdy and put a bolt through to secure the flag pole. And i also welded a nut onto the hitch receiver and ran a bolt to prevent the draw bar from wobbling around.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...443987b006.jpg


Drilled and bolted eye bolts for flag mounting. And used mini d rings to attach flag to pole. Quick and effective. Tighten the drings with wrench so it wont be easy for thiefs to steal the flag. Hope no ones thats cruel to steal the american flag but you never know

zombiehunter99 05-19-2015 10:12 AM

And to open the hatch all i have to do is unbolt the pole from the mount and hatch can be opened

XJ_Chavez 05-19-2015 11:31 AM

Man that's genius!!!! How much?

jbsjunk 05-19-2015 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by XJ_Chavez (Post 3090158)
Man that's genius!!!! How much?


Are you cerial? :bangin:

Gotta love booger welds.

zombiehunter99 05-19-2015 02:28 PM

Yea my flux welder sucks at times.
Pole 10 bucks for 10 ft just fence post
drings 2.25 each
eye rings 1.78 each
draw bar free had it
hitch ball free had it so around 20 bucks invested oh and cheap paint from wally world had laying around....

Rogue4x4 05-19-2015 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by zombiehunter99 (Post 3090213)
Yea my flux welder sucks at times.
Pole 10 bucks for 10 ft just fence post
drings 2.25 each
eye rings 1.78 each
draw bar free had it
hitch ball free had it so around 20 bucks invested oh and cheap paint from wally world had laying around....

It isn't your welder, it's the material you're welding.

You say you used fencepost? Like for chain link, right?

That stuff is galvanized. Meaning it has a coating on it. Welding galvanized material is dangerous, it creates phosgene gas, which can and will kill you. You need to grind off the coating completely, and not just where you weld it, but several inches away from the weld point. Not to mention the fact that it will contaminate the weld puddle.

zombiehunter99 05-20-2015 10:39 AM

I did grind all the coating off the pole for the mounting part.

93XJeeper 05-20-2015 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by roninofako (Post 3090375)
It isn't your welder, it's the material you're welding. You say you used fencepost? Like for chain link, right? That stuff is galvanized. Meaning it has a coating on it. Welding galvanized material is dangerous, it creates phosgene gas, which can and will kill you. You need to grind off the coating completely, and not just where you weld it, but several inches away from the weld point. Not to mention the fact that it will contaminate the weld puddle.

just so you know, the fumes won't kill you, but will need make you feel like you wanna die. Lol. Zinc oxide is also used in sunblock. It would just make you feel as if you ate a bottle of sun block. I do know a lot of people who have not gotten sick from welding galvanized but it can still happen.

Rogue4x4 05-20-2015 01:43 PM


Originally Posted by 93XJeeper (Post 3090637)
just so you know, the fumes won't kill you, but will need make you feel like you wanna die. Lol. Zinc oxide is also used in sunblock. It would just make you feel as if you ate a bottle of sun block. I do know a lot of people who have not gotten sick from welding galvanized but it can still happen.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene

I suggest you read this. Phosgene gas killed 80% of soldiers in WWI chemical attacks. It can kill you. Repeated long term exposure can have this effect as well. Please don't come back with "it was only one time, and a small amount " or some foolishness.Bottom line is don't weld Galvinized material unless you prep properly and have adaquet ventilation or fume extraction. If it makes you sick, that's the first sign to stop.

salad 05-20-2015 03:26 PM

AFAIK the phosgene hazard is mostly from working on metals that were prepared with chlorinated cleaners.

But that doesn't mean it's okay... I don't have a welder and even *I* know inhaling that **** is bad for you!

http://www.anvilfire.com/iForge/tuto...n=safety3/demo

Don't be an idiot

El_Guapo 05-20-2015 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by salad (Post 3090671)
AFAIK the phosgene hazard is mostly from working on metals that were prepared with chlorinated cleaners.

^^^THIS.

The big hazard with welding galvanized is metal fume fever. You can get that nasty flu feeling the first time you light it up. Over time it starts taking longer and longer to recover, and eventually you don't recover.

Stainless is every bit as bad, if not worse due to the chromium offgassing.

The marginal "steel" used in things like fenceposts or EMT conduit can make the best welder look like a rookie even without the galvanizing. I've got a shop stool that I had to use a piece of EMT to repair and it drives me batty every time I look at it.

That said, the idea is there and the engineering is there. Get some carbon steel tubing give her a little rework. I wouldn't hesitate to use sch 40 water pipe for something like this either, just make sure it is black and not galvanized.

93XJeeper 05-20-2015 07:41 PM


Originally Posted by roninofako (Post 3090649)
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosgene I suggest you read this. Phosgene gas killed 80% of soldiers in WWI chemical attacks. It can kill you. Repeated long term exposure can have this effect as well. Please don't come back with "it was only one time, and a small amount " or some foolishness.Bottom line is don't weld Galvinized material unless you prep properly and have adaquet ventilation or fume extraction. If it makes you sick, that's the first sign to stop.

phosgene is not in galvanized metal. It's COCl2 which is made by reacting carbon monoxide and chloride. It was used in as a degreaser a while back but is not anymore.

93XJeeper 05-20-2015 07:44 PM

I'm not saying that it's fine to inhale the fumes and that it won't do noting. Lol. It will still make you feel like ****. Sorry, I don't mean to hijack the thread.

El_Guapo 05-20-2015 08:34 PM

You should always take a few precautions when welding questionable steel, stainless or any exotic alloys.

A respirator and working outdoors are the simplest things that you can do to protect yourself.

You don't need a PAPR or a high dollar half mask respirator. There are disposable options out there.

Something like this: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3...4857473&rt=rud

Another thing to watch for even with clean mild steel when MIG or TIG welding is your shielding gas (argon) displacing oxygen. I've gotten a little woozy when running a MIG in an enclosed area. At work we are required to have a sniffer with us any time we so much as strike an arc in a confined space.

93XJeeper 05-20-2015 08:52 PM

Yea, I'm gonna be using galvanized steel for my floor board repair and I will be using a 3M 7500 Series respirator. I'm just gonna grind the galvanic coating off the areas I'm Gonna weld. I will also take all my doors off and open hatch for extra ventilation.

diskman 05-21-2015 11:55 AM

The CDC has this to say about the subject.

Not life threatening. Just seems to be a bad trip.

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/81-123/pdfs/0675.pdf

El_Guapo 05-21-2015 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by diskman (Post 3091002)
The CDC has this to say about the subject.

Not life threatening. Just seems to be a bad trip.

http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/81-123/pdfs/0675.pdf

It is one of those things that builds up in your system over time - the real damage doesn't show up in 99% of people until they've been breathing it for years.

Some people do have a sensitivity to it that causes more acute effects. I've got a friend that'll be down for a week if he's just in the area of us when we're torching bolts.

cruiser54 05-25-2015 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by 93XJeeper (Post 3090637)
just so you know, the fumes won't kill you, but will need make you feel like you wanna die. Lol. Zinc oxide is also used in sunblock. It would just make you feel as if you ate a bottle of sun block. I do know a lot of people who have not gotten sick from welding galvanized but it can still happen.

From WeldmyWorld.com

Whenever you are working with galvanized steel it is important that you take the necessary steps when prepping the metal before welding. If you have properly prepped your metal before welding, you will help reduce your exposure to zinc oxide fumes. While prepping the base metal will remove the majority of the zinc from the surface of the metal, the possibility of some galvanizing while welding may occur. A common sign of galvanizing is the appearance of yellowish-green smoke, white powdery particles in the air, and a white residue around the weld. If you are exposed to large quantities of the yellowish-green zinc oxide fumes, you may experience galvanize poisoning, or metal fume fever as it is sometimes called. The severity of your symptoms depends on the amount of time that you were directly exposed to the harmful fumes.

Symptoms of galvanize poisoning can be similar to flu symptoms. The onset of symptoms typically begin shortly after you have been exposed to zinc oxide and may include a mild headache accompanied by nausea. If you have a more severe case of exposure, your symptoms will be consistent to those experienced when you have the flu. A moderate case of exposure will result in symptoms including chills, shaking, a slight fever, vomiting and cold sweats. If you begin to experience any of these symptoms you should immediately stop working and get some fresh air. In severe cases the symptoms may be so bad that you will have to go home until they subside. The most severe cases of galvanize poisoning can result in death. If you feel that your symptoms are worse than anything you may have experienced you should seek medical attention at once.


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