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lew_jean 06-13-2018 11:17 AM

Ham radio transmit max power
 
I want to mount a ham radio on the top rack by the front and rear door meet, the right side will be 144/440 MHZ max 50 watts, the left side 7.0 - 28Mhz 100Watts
Question what is the max transmitter power I can use without doing damage to the cars computers
also how far should I have the ham antenna from the car antenna (gps&radio)
2018 Jeep Cherokee Latitude

wizardpc 06-13-2018 01:58 PM

Is there a question here?

fb97xj1 06-13-2018 02:32 PM

I heard a pig use a radio once, but had to turn it off. Too much squealing.

BlueRidgeMark 06-14-2018 09:06 PM

If you have to ask, something is wrong. Do you realize you must have an FCC license to run a ham radio? You should have learned your power limits in order to pass the license test.

Jimbo Slice 06-16-2018 11:38 AM

He's asking about the interaction with the vehicle computer. Has anybody ever heard of this being an issue?

wizardpc 06-16-2018 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by Jimbo Slice (Post 3496936)
He's asking about the interaction with the vehicle computer. Has anybody ever heard of this being an issue?

He's edited the original post at least twice after folks responded. First iteration was "I want to mount a ham radio on the top rack by the front and rear door meet." This explains the first two responses.

Second iteration had that, plus a question about the maximum power output for amateur radio. That is the reason for BRM's response.

Now we have:

Originally Posted by lew_jean (Post 3496194)
I want to mount a ham radio on the top rack by the front and rear door meet, the right side will be 144/440 MHZ max 50 watts, the left side 7.0 - 28Mhz 100Watts
Question what is the max transmitter power I can use without doing damage to the cars computers
also how far should I have the ham antenna from the car antenna (gps&radio)
2018 Jeep Cherokee Latitude

This is much, much better.
Unfortunately I can't answer it since I know nothing about the KLs

BlueRidgeMark 06-16-2018 05:44 PM


Originally Posted by lew_jean (Post 3496194)
Question what is the max transmitter power I can use without doing damage to the cars computers


Best guess (I'm a radio engineer) is any legal amount should be good as long as you follow proper installation practices and use quality connectors and coax. Use a double-shielded coax. Never cut corners on coax, connectors, or antennas. This is the most critical component of your system.

Let me give you an example from my dim, distant past when I worked in a two-way radio shop. We had a customer come in needing repairs on his car phone (this was very early in the cellphone days, and the older IMTS car phones were still around.)

While the boss was doodling in the innards of the IMTS transmitter (needed a tune-up), I got to chatting with the customer. He was a ham operator, and was in the habit of running higher power than was legal. He told me about putting a new 1500 watt linear (10 meter) in his truck, which was a Toyota extended cab. He had 4 car batteries in series behind his set in the 'extended' area, just to power his linear. The first time he fired it up, he killed his engine due to RF overloading his computer. He replaced all his coax with double-shielded and didn't have any more problems.



Originally Posted by lew_jean (Post 3496194)
also how far should I have the ham antenna from the car antenna (gps&radio)
2018 Jeep Cherokee Latitude

As far as possible. While you have lots of frequency separation, you are also pumping out lots of power, and you may get enough coupling into the receive antenna to desense either receiver, possibly even ruin them. The GPS signal is pretty weak, and it's a wideband receiver, so it's pretty easy to overload it.

lew_jean 06-18-2018 01:25 PM

thank you for your comments

I will be doing the install later on this year when the temp is cooler

73'
Lew
N4HRA

BlueRidgeMark 06-18-2018 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by lew_jean (Post 3497323)
I will be doing the install later on this year when the temp is cooler

You are wise, grasshopper! :D

We hit 100 today. I passed on running down an electrical problem in my truck.

N7MOG 01-25-2019 09:17 PM

FWIW, 1500W is the max legal power allowable for ham radio on most bands (a few are limited to less).


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