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phillyxj570 07-23-2010 06:37 PM

duel e fan
 
i am going to my local jy tomarrow. i already have a mechanical fan and a e fan. i have seen a few guys on here that have those two fans and they also have a duel e fan in between the grill and radiator..what vehicles can i pull a duel fan from for my 96xj

96_xj 07-23-2010 07:05 PM

grab a 2 speed ford tarus fan (93-97????) it will have 3 wires coming from it instead of the normal 2.

It will fit perfectly in your mechanical fan shroud.

after that is said and down you need a relay to power a fuse to make sure it doesnt blow up lol and a temp switch.

I would put it on a 3 way toggle. that way you can run it manually or off the temp switch.

best of luck man. and do a write up on it if you can!

phillyxj570 07-23-2010 07:08 PM

so i can fit a fan in between my mechanical fan and radiator....i dont want to remove me mech fan i just want to add another e fan...im just going to wire it to a on off switch for extra cooling when im towing my trailer and when im on the trailers

96_xj 07-23-2010 07:09 PM

no. You will have to take out the mechanical fan then you can put the E fan in the same shroud used as the mechanical fan.

96_xj 07-23-2010 07:11 PM

2 Attachment(s)
here is how to take off the mechanical fan

REMOVAL
Some engines have the mechanical fan/viscous fan drive assembly mounted directly to the water pump hub (Fig. 47). It may also be mounted to a hub/bear- ing attached to an aluminum bracket on the right front side of engine (Fig. 48).
(1) Loosen but do not remove at this time, the four fan hub mounting nuts (Fig. 47) xxxxxx (Fig. 48).
(2) Remove accessory serpentine drive belt. Refer to Belt Service in the Engine Accessory Drive Belt section of this group.
(3) Some models with certain engines may require the removal of the fan shroud to remove the viscous fan drive. The fan shroud and fan blade/viscous fan drive should be removed from the vehicle as one assembly.
(4) Remove four fan hub mounting nuts (Fig. 47) xxxxxxxxxx (Fig. 48) and remove fan/viscous fan drive assembly from vehicle.
(5) After removing fan blade/viscous fan drive assembly, do not place thermal viscous fan drive in horizontal position. If stored horizontally, silicone
Fig. 47 Water Pump Mounted Cooling Fan
Fig. 48 Bracket Mounted Cooling Fan
fluid in viscous fan drive could drain into its bearing assembly and contaminate lubricant.

rich 07-23-2010 07:32 PM

I think he said He dont want to remove the mechanical fan:confused1:

96_xj 07-23-2010 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by rich (Post 613199)
I think he said He dont want to remove the mechanical fan:confused1:

i guess i was implied huh?? might help if i read better...

phillyxj570 07-23-2010 07:37 PM

i saw a post i think it was yesterday of an xj where he had two e fans in between his radiator and this grill...thats what i want to do i have a spare e fan from another xj sitting in my shed...im trying to find the post now so i can show you what im talking about

96_xj 07-23-2010 07:45 PM

oh wait. i know what you are talking about!!! it was a white cherokee. he had 2 pusher fans on the grill side and then the stock e-fan and mechanical fan on the engine side.


You can not use any stock fan as stock fans are puller's and what he had was 2 after market pusher fans.


the problem with that set up is if you do highway driving you need have them turned off as having them on will actually impede air flow.

I would honestly just replace the mechanical fan with the ford efan

phillyxj570 07-23-2010 08:06 PM

the only time that fan would get turned on is when i am towing my trailer or out on the trails...i would put it on a switch i wouldnt hook it up to a temp sensor so it will not turn on automatically....what if i took the stock fan i have and put it there backwards

96_xj 07-23-2010 08:19 PM

To be honest with you I don't see the point of a pusher, you are blocking radiator space and on a Cherokee with ac you are only cooling ac condesor not even the rad... I would take out your mechanical and replace it with a tarus fan and you will probably gain more cooling capabilities than having a stock reversed on the front... Not worth it since the stock e fans are whimpy... And you would still need the relays and wiring to run it either way

posjeepxj 07-24-2010 03:11 AM


Originally Posted by 96_xj (Post 613165)
grab a 2 speed ford tarus fan (93-97????) it will have 3 wires coming from it instead of the normal 2.

It will fit perfectly in your mechanical fan shroud.

after that is said and down you need a relay to power a fuse to make sure it doesnt blow up lol and a temp switch.

I would put it on a 3 way toggle. that way you can run it manually or off the temp switch.

best of luck man. and do a write up on it if you can!

the fan i think you are thinking of is off of the 3.8 motor.

it is a very high cfm fan (3500 or so on high)

2 problems.

it doesnt fit in factory shroud (its huge
it pulls almost 100 amps on start up and 50-60 constant

posjeepxj 07-24-2010 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by 96_xj (Post 613215)
oh wait. i know what you are talking about!!! it was a white cherokee. he had 2 pusher fans on the grill side and then the stock e-fan and mechanical fan on the engine side.


You can not use any stock fan as stock fans are puller's and what he had was 2 after market pusher fans.


the problem with that set up is if you do highway driving you need have them turned off as having them on will actually impede air flow.

I would honestly just replace the mechanical fan with the ford efan

agreed

96_xj 07-24-2010 03:16 AM


Originally Posted by posjeepxj (Post 613718)
the fan i think you are thinking of is off of the 3.8 motor.

it is a very high cfm fan (3500 or so on high)

2 problems.

it doesnt fit in factory shroud (its huge
it pulls almost 100 amps on start up and 50-60 constant


correct. however we got it fit in the factory mechanical fan shroud with no issues. About 1/4" clearance all the way around. And if you run it on low it is a 76amp start up 40 amp constant load (verified by volt meter).

if you run it on high however.... it is a 100 amp start up and 65 amp constant load. For that you need an upgraded alt. But it is nice to have the 2 speed option if you ever decide to upgrade the alt then you have the ability to run the high speed.


it is 3100 cfm on low and 4000 cfm on high

kojoff 09-12-2010 07:24 PM

Has anyone posted a "how to" about doing this? I want to switch out mine and have the donor car already, but can I take out my original e fan too? Is there any way to run the ford e fan off the original temp sensor?


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