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98_XJ Sport 06-21-2012 08:20 PM

Decisions Decisons
 
Mods please feel free to move if not in the correct section.

Well folks today I realized a few decisions i have to make soon.
I showed my dad the list of all I want to do to my Jeep and he suggested keeping mods low because i'll never get that money back if i choose to re-sell.
Heres a copy of my list:

A-Pillar Light Mounts $40.00
KC Hilites Day Lighter 100W Pair Black $118.99
Smittybilt MOD Front Bumper $399.99
Smittybilt MOD Bull Bar $99.99
KC Hilites Fog Lamp 100W $116.99
Smittybilt XRC-8 Winch $299.99
Smittybilt D-Rings $51.96
Smittybilt XRC Rear Bumper $399.99
Smittybilt Beaver Step $49.99
Smittybilt Reciever Tow Hook $14.99
Bushwacker Flat Style Fender Flares $459.99
Daystar Front SwayBar Bushing 25mm $24.99
Old Man Emu 3"Lift w/Ubolts, bushings and Steering Stabilizer $1,219.70
Old Man Emu 10mm Front Spacer $21.98
Rubicon Express Adjusable Lower Control Arms Super Ride $219.99
JKS Adjustable Track Bar $216.99
Mamba Offroad Type MR-1 Machined 16x8 $699.95
Cooper STT 265/75/16 $1,325.00
Tomken Gas Tank Skid $184.99
K&N Fuel Injection Performance Kit $247.99
Magnaflow 49 State Legal Catalytic Converter $131.99
Magnaflow Performance Cat-Back Exhaust System $499.99
Mean Grean Alternator $399.99
Mean Green Starter $299.99
Optima Yellow-Top $199.99
PlastiColor Jeep Logo Front Mats $42.99
Rear Slush Mats $44.99
$7,862.34
As you can see its quite extensive, and the total is a little hard to swallow.
I dont plan to re-sell. But i do want to make smart decisions with my investments. My XJ has 199,000 miles on it now, is rust free and runs great, and I know these engines will go forever, but along with that i know that at some point it will break and I will need a re-manufactured engine or a junkyard engine.
I guess my question is, should i save and continue to make these upgrades with the expectancy of dropping in an engine and plan to never get the money i spend back. Or should I wait to buy a newer Jeep.
I told him I would rather spend less than 10K and keep this Jeep and make it my own with upgrades than make a car payment later on.
Any opinions would be much appreciated. Im 17 working for close to minimum wage, so modifying my Jeep is slow going. But I love it and wouldnt trade the experiences ive had with it for anything.

Dr. Doom 06-21-2012 09:48 PM

Buy a welder and learn to make bumpers, sliders etc. Much more satisfying than paying retail.

SeriousOffroad 06-21-2012 09:54 PM

You can knock a lot off the bottom line if you take look in the vendor forum.....

Tom95YJ 06-21-2012 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by SeriousOffroad (Post 1850832)
You can knock a lot off the bottom line if you take look in the vendor forum.....

X2

I've been building jeeps and wheeling for almost a Decade now over the years I learned how to save money and build a reliable rig on the cheap for the most part. I have less than $3,000 into my entire build of my XJ,

I would also seriously look into building your own lift kit Peice by Piece, It will save you Tons of Money. I saved over $400 piecing together my lift
15" wheels and tires are cheaper than 16" wheels and tires are too not to mention lighter so less rotating mass = easier on brakes and gas milage
31x10.50x15 Cooper SST's will be $925 where a 265/75/16 is $1,325 , A 15" wheel will save you $ 400 in tire cost Tires are only going up in price !
Mean green Starter and alternators are a ripoffs and not needed if you winch. You can save a bunch by getting a alternator for another mopar truck that puts out 130 amps for $100 and have a lifetime warranty over a 1 yr warranty. That will save you $ 700 JKS Tracbar is pricy for what it is , You can get a RE tracbar for $ 125 so there is another $90 in savings The beaver step is pointless an not needed so there is another $50 ,If your cat is still good no need to replace it Save another $130 , The Catback is over priced buy a magnaflow muffler for $100 and have a exhaust shop bend a tailpipe an weld up the muffler for $140 that will save another $260


So total I just knocked off your build would be $ 1,630. An I have not even picked apart the lift yet or deducted the savings of 15" wheels over 16" wheels.

With the amount you just tallied up from Quadratec, I could add 4K to my XJ Build an have it Long armed, Add a swing out carrier, Exocage, Regear, lock the front diff, and get some 35's . An it would be build one hell of alot better than yours with the same 7,800 total investment in the Jeep

dogger15 06-21-2012 10:10 PM

$1200 for a 3" lift

You sure about that

K2dark_xj 06-21-2012 10:49 PM

there's definitely some things that i would change. you can get that bill down 2000 dollars i bet. but anyways, mod it out. you'll be happy wen you have a nice jeep.

94XjSport94 06-21-2012 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by dogger15 (Post 1850870)
$1200 for a 3" lift

You sure about that

If its OME that sounds pretty close

Tom95YJ 06-21-2012 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by dogger15 (Post 1850870)
$1200 for a 3" lift

You sure about that

A 3.5" Re kit with full leafs and bilstein 5100's is roughly $1100, Which is why I pieced together mine for $685 including shocks

OME is quality its not RC!

vespa50sp 06-21-2012 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by Dr. Doom (Post 1850814)
Buy a welder and learn to make bumpers, sliders etc. Much more satisfying than paying retail.

X2 weld and go homebrew. Visit the junkyard.

94XjSport94 06-21-2012 10:53 PM


Originally Posted by Tom95YJ (Post 1850866)
X2

I've been building jeeps and wheeling for almost a Decade now over the years I learned how to save money and build a reliable rig on the cheap for the most part. I have less than $3,000 into my entire build of my XJ,

I would also seriously look into building your own lift kit Peice by Piece, It will save you Tons of Money. I saved over $400 piecing together my lift
15" wheels and tires are cheaper than 16" wheels and tires are too not to mention lighter so less rotating mass = easier on brakes and gas milage
31x10.50x15 Cooper SST's will be $925 where a 265/75/16 is $1,325 , A 15" wheel will save you $ 400 in tire cost Tires are only going up in price !
Mean green Starter and alternators are a ripoffs and not needed if you winch. You can save a bunch by getting a alternator for another mopar truck that puts out 130 amps for $100 and have a lifetime warranty over a 1 yr warranty. That will save you $ 700 JKS Tracbar is pricy for what it is , You can get a RE tracbar for $ 125 so there is another $90 in savings The beaver step is pointless an not needed so there is another $50 ,If your cat is still good no need to replace it Save another $130 , The Catback is over priced buy a magnaflow muffler for $100 and have a exhaust shop bend a tailpipe an weld up the muffler for $140 that will save another $260


So total I just knocked off your build would be $ 1,630. An I have not even picked apart the lift yet or deducted the savings of 15" wheels over 16" wheels.

With the amount you just tallied up from Quadratec, I could add 4K to my XJ Build an have it Long armed, Add a swing out carrier, Exocage, Regear, lock the front diff, and get some 35's . Hell I could probably have some D60's under it since I always find them built for $1,500 online when people start parting their rigs

X2 there is a TON you can knock off that list... Honestly no reason to put 7k in an XJ like that, but if you are, just font do it all at once and please shop around and ask questions cause everything you want can be had for much much much cheaper

98_XJ Sport 06-21-2012 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by 94XjSport94

If its OME that sounds pretty close

Go to JeepinOutfitters.com and price it

Tom95YJ 06-21-2012 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by 98_XJ Sport (Post 1851031)
Go to JeepinOutfitters.com and price it

I suggest you start talking to Dirk @ DPG Offroad for OME stuff ! He could save you a good amount

PNWjeeper 06-21-2012 11:20 PM

Agreed you can save a lot if you know where to look and who to talk to.

dogger15 06-21-2012 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by Tom95YJ

A 3.5" Re kit with full leafs and bilstein 5100's is roughly $1100, Which is why I pieced together mine for $685 including shocks

OME is quality its not RC!

http://www.seriousoffroadproducts.co...ducts_id=86098

Your $685 isn't bad for everything

I'd also recommend looking at serious offload

KJamesJR 06-21-2012 11:38 PM


Originally Posted by Tom95YJ (Post 1850866)
X2

I've been building jeeps and wheeling for almost a Decade now over the years I learned how to save money and build a reliable rig on the cheap for the most part. I have less than $3,000 into my entire build of my XJ,

I would also seriously look into building your own lift kit Peice by Piece, It will save you Tons of Money. I saved over $400 piecing together my lift
15" wheels and tires are cheaper than 16" wheels and tires are too not to mention lighter so less rotating mass = easier on brakes and gas milage
31x10.50x15 Cooper SST's will be $925 where a 265/75/16 is $1,325 , A 15" wheel will save you $ 400 in tire cost Tires are only going up in price !
Mean green Starter and alternators are a ripoffs and not needed if you winch. You can save a bunch by getting a alternator for another mopar truck that puts out 130 amps for $100 and have a lifetime warranty over a 1 yr warranty. That will save you $ 700 JKS Tracbar is pricy for what it is , You can get a RE tracbar for $ 125 so there is another $90 in savings The beaver step is pointless an not needed so there is another $50 ,If your cat is still good no need to replace it Save another $130 , The Catback is over priced buy a magnaflow muffler for $100 and have a exhaust shop bend a tailpipe an weld up the muffler for $140 that will save another $260


So total I just knocked off your build would be $ 1,630. An I have not even picked apart the lift yet or deducted the savings of 15" wheels over 16" wheels.

With the amount you just tallied up from Quadratec, I could add 4K to my XJ Build an have it Long armed, Add a swing out carrier, Exocage, Regear, lock the front diff, and get some 35's . An it would be build one hell of alot better than yours with the same 7,800 total investment in the Jeep

lol you want to help me build up a list for my XJ? I'm up to about $1,700, most of which will probably from SeriousOffRoad.


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