Originally Posted by Monkey226

I don't have the time to go to college yet, military keeps me pretty busy, plus if I just figure out what kind if welder and a jump start to some basic welding knowledge, I'll be good from there. I'm a fast learner.

Originally Posted by Monkey226

Also you said rent a welder? Could I do that at like home depot or Lowes?

Originally Posted by SatiricalHen

Does Anyone know if stiffners can be done with tig or stick reasonably?

Originally Posted by roninofako

You could TIG it.

Originally Posted by extrashaky

You'll learn a lot more, correctly, by doing it under instruction. I would suggest looking around for a weekend class. A lot of times you can take a single weekend intro class for MIG welding through a makers' group or through an adult education program at a community college. Sometimes local welding shops will do weekend classes to make a little extra money. You'll actually know a lot more about what you want to buy after you've had a few hours under the hood.Home Depot rents little Lincoln welders. You have to check your local store for availability and pricing.

https://www.homedepot.com/tool-truck...elder/K2514-1/If he's asking the question, it doesn't seem likely he has the TIG skills to do that.

Originally Posted by TeXJ

Think I found the answer. So when I went to the .035 wire, I didn't know that the contact tip is for .030. The machine said I could use .030 and .035. Had a friend call and I noticed that it said .030 on the tip.

The .035 does go through that tip but it is pretty tight. When I run the wire without the tip it seems to work just fine.

I think I can buy this and it should work even though it says it's for MIG and I'm doing flux at the moment:
https://www.amazon.com/MIG-Gun-Mille...g%2Bparts&th=1

Originally Posted by TeXJ

Yeah I found another link for just the tips. I was thinking those parts were there to protect the parts of the gun from the splatter of the flux welding process and the extra heat. Now, I guess, I'm kind of used to it being there

One day I'll get a tank of gas and start to MIG weld. I know it's a better and easier way to weld than flux, but i'm lazy and a tight wad lol

Originally Posted by Bugout4x4

I hope you all don't mind, but I felt the discussion Freerider15 and I were having on another thread might be better served here in the welding thread hopefully for some additional dialog, knowledge and experience to be shared from both Freerider15 and other fabricators who might have time to dive into this topic about roll cage design and why they might be needed on these Jeeps.

I greatly understand, respect and appreciate the very good points, knowledge and experience Freerider so graciously found time to share in our debate conversation but felt that the reality of how soft these things are might warrant some more detailed discussion about why a cage (and cage design) is in my opinion an absolute necessity if you are going to put your loved ones in one of these.

Many are aware that I recently found out personally how soft and malleable these things really are. Far too soft for comfort, they have the tensile strength of lead and I am going to honest... It scared the hell out of me. If the right side rain gutter had not advantageously by chance folded over the top lip of the doors to "capture" them, The whole roof front to back would have smashed down flat and trapped me inside with no way to get out. Pretty much from just the weight of the vehicle alone. And this was a slow graceful roll at a complete stop and no forward motion. If I had been even going 5 miles an hour it would have indeed smashed all the way flat and trapped me inside.

So I would be privileged if anyone would like add their knowledge experience and two cents into our discussion and I hope Freerider may also find time to come dive into this deeper. This is the discussion so far forwarded from the other thread where we kind of went off topic on which is why I brought it over here where it actually belongs since the discussion moved to materials, design and welding.













Important at this point to refer to this second thought and contemplation about why I am considering the material I mentioned. The XJ design and shape has a lot to do with the concept I added here in this reply.



Please feel free to add your knowledge and experience on this topic if you find time. All input is welcome and greatly appreciated because this modification really needs to the be the best it can be because of how important it really is on these bodies. I never realized how imporatnt until my recent near miss because of it. I'm not going to put my Grandchildren in one of these again until the cabin skeleton is made stronger.

Originally Posted by extrashaky

https://www.homedepot.com/tool-truck...elder/K2514-1/
If he's asking the question, it doesn't seem likely he has the TIG skills to do that.

Originally Posted by TeXJ

So to continue my issue with my HH140, I made a video:
https://youtu.be/5yyTL0gkt7w

My original question is here:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/f58/we...3/#post3432363

Any help would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by Basslicks

Lots of good insight in there! Thanks for sharing that, Bug!

Originally Posted by Basslicks

I'm a skilled bassist, but I have no bass guitars at my house... does that nullify my skills to play the bass?

Originally Posted by Bugout4x4

According to current society...yes. And did you get a degree in playing Bass? If not then your skills are completely nullified without that paper and your credibility in that field is to be ignored and discouraged. lol

But I guess anymore about that should go in a different thread because now I'm going...

Originally Posted by Bugout4x4

I was going to add more about what I want to do and why I want to use box tubing. My thought is to cut out the roof and the skeleton of the cabin along the rain gutter and down through all the pillars, and replace the factory formed skeleton with a full 8 point roll cage tucked and welded inside the factory pillars. If I do it right, I can leave all the sheet needed for the windshield, doors and sides as they are. Last would be a new slightly thicker roof sheet attached to this roll cage. But to fit the corner angles correctly, and because these Jeeps are indeed square, I would have to use mitered box for these tight sharp corner angles and stay true to factory lines. Round tube just cannot be bent into a sharp squared angle.

Originally Posted by Bugout4x4

According to current society...yes. And did you get a degree in playing Bass? If not then your skills are completely nullified without that paper and your credibility in that field is to be ignored and discouraged. lol

But I guess anymore about that should go in a different thread because now I'm going...

Originally Posted by 5-Speed

Wait one more thing off topic! The problem solver....



Hold on did you mean a bass or a bass? Or did you mean a bass bass? The internet makes everything so confusing. Doesnt matter, this has got you covered both ways.

Originally Posted by 5-Speed

Hold on did you mean a bass or a bass? Or did you mean a bass bass? The internet makes everything so confusing. Doesnt matter, this has got you covered both ways.