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Old 11-15-2009, 12:37 AM
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im gonna be putting a cage in my '87 soon and im looking just to build a simple sturdy cage. any ideas or pics?
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I dont have any plans but there was a guy who put a exo cage.
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Default a few cage pics from a past build

here are a few bad pics from an xj cage I did. I try and keep it as tight to the body as possible so fingers cant fit in between. I also turn in all joints so that the welds can be fully welded no half welded joints.... ever...
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maybe this will throw you a few ideas
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just think triangles when building a cage. and no poo pipe. use tube.

^nice clean cage, however, i'm not a fan of internal cages, jeeps are tight enough inside without a cage. that one looks like a knee banger to get in and out of.

go external, unless you're running nascar with your jeep. haha
external gives enough protection for a slow flop, or if built correctly, can protect for a nasty roll off an off-camber climb gone wrong.

just my opinion tho...
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just think triangles when building a cage. and no poo pipe. use tube.

^nice clean cage, however, i'm not a fan of internal cages, jeeps are tight enough inside without a cage. that one looks like a knee banger to get in and out of.

go external, unless you're running nascar with your jeep. haha
external gives enough protection for a slow flop, or if built correctly, can protect for a nasty roll off an off-camber climb gone wrong.

just my opinion tho...
just seems there would be alot more to building a exocage then rollcage inside the jeep.
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yeah, there is a bit, i guess. like rock rails and bumpers first to be able to tie it all into place. plus clean looks counts a bit more too.

but for the cool factor.....external has just a wee bit more. lol.
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Anyone seen many hybrid exo-internal cages?

I like the look of the internal cage, but want more room in the front of the XJ. "2dr"

I was thinking about doing an internal cage from the b-pillar back to the rear quarters, then tying it into an external cage that could connect over the b-pillar, and extend forward down the a-pilars and down into the fenders connecting with rock rails or beefed up tube rockers.

Anyone ever seen anything like this?
wondering how it would look, either that or I am just going to do a internal 6pt roll cage from the b-pillar back.
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Originally Posted by ITSAJEEPXJTHING
Anyone seen many hybrid exo-internal cages?

I like the look of the internal cage, but want more room in the front of the XJ. "2dr"

I was thinking about doing an internal cage from the b-pillar back to the rear quarters, then tying it into an external cage that could connect over the b-pillar, and extend forward down the a-pilars and down into the fenders connecting with rock rails or beefed up tube rockers.

Anyone ever seen anything like this?
wondering how it would look, either that or I am just going to do a internal 6pt roll cage from the b-pillar back.

Similar to what i had considered. Internal from B-pillar back. Tied into a tubular roofrack that runs the length of the rig, down the A-pillars and through fenders to rockrails. In the end i decided i didnt want all that weight on a rig that doesnt see harder trails anymore.
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Iron man, I like your cage desin, but I would feel beter if there were no joints in the A pillar. When I had my cage done... Eddie did a top halo, and then ran the A pillars down.

here is a pic of the C pillar and top halo



here is a pic of the A B And C pillsr with top halo
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sweet input so far. any more ideas??
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not really simple but here is my exo cage...it runs thru the roof to the floor behind the seats for 4 point harnesses.
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Originally Posted by 113Cherokee
sweet input so far. any more ideas??
I agree, Thank You. I do not think a exo cage is realistic for XJ's that are Daily Drivers cause of the Laws and unwelcomed attention. I love the way they look and I agree that you do not have to worry about being cramped and bumping your head but that is better than being pulled over everyday.

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I agree, Thank You. I do not think a exo cage is realistic for XJ's that are Daily Drivers cause of the Laws and unwelcomed attention. I love the way they look and I agree that you do not have to worry about being cramped and bumping your head but that is better than being pulled over everyday.
i have been driving my jeep with the exo for 2 and a half years and havent been pulled over once......and my tires stick out more than half way!! was a dd for 2 years til recently. i still drive to and from trails and on sundays.
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i have been driving my jeep with the exo for 2 and a half years and havent been pulled over once......and my tires stick out more than half way!! was a dd for 2 years til recently. i still drive to and from trails and on sundays.
Not every where is so lenient.
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Originally Posted by bigbadxj
Not every where is so lenient.

yeah here in colorado cops see crawlers driving around town everyday....so im sure the are used to it. i am 26 and i have only seen maybe two lifted jeeps pulled over here around denver EVER!!! they leave us jeep guys alone.

last time i went to moab i got alot of dirty looks from the highway patrol....moab cops were pretty cool though......

back to the topic......triangulation to any cage is key. oh yeah, and dont use the harbor frieght tube masher(bender).

when doing an exo its hard to triangulate.......but most of my roof tubes intersect with the down tubes. you want this to spread the load of a roll on the whole cage instead of just your contact point.

one more downside to an exo is fully welding all tubes. its to close to the body to be able to weld the back side of most the tubes. tach it all together then lift the cage up til you can weld the back side of the tubes....this can be a PITA!!!!!


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