Fabrication & builders section. All fabrication posts go here.
XJ/MJ/ZJ/WJ Only projects go here. Questions belong in modified tech.

Recessed winch bumper build

Old 12-31-2013, 02:51 PM
  #1  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default Recessed winch bumper build

I had previously installed the JCR Unibody tie in plates which I am very happy with and which should allow me to run a decent quality bumper that will bolt on in the stock location yet be much stronger without having to pull the steering box any time I need to pull the bumper.
Here's the JCR tie in plates
Name:  f9ed937006034d2f113106354f864997.jpg
Views: 843
Size:  61.2 KB
Name:  1092d94db3b35ddcea01669db851f732.jpg
Views: 586
Size:  58.4 KB
Whipped up some new bumper brackets from 1/4" plate 5" high 8" long drilled accordingly
Name:  e7b4e786f0ceae91ed40f06b0e451c8e.jpg
Views: 377
Size:  62.0 KB
Name:  757d4b4bd0e339e9770ee0cfd0e1e379.jpg
Views: 298
Size:  43.7 KB
Used a universal winch mounting channel as I had it sitting around, welded up about 30 extra holes in it and trimmed the edges down to fit up to the 5" high side plates
Name:  2fbd164a964a9731ce0edf79871b966f.jpg
Views: 354
Size:  71.1 KB
Name:  975dc4a1c738308a88b0c90965b93b8d.jpg
Views: 333
Size:  72.4 KB
Name:  79b93f009198d32283dfee3611ee86fa.jpg
Views: 310
Size:  55.2 KB
Approach angle with the new bumper
Name:  f03992d3f3a9fa6ebc102ee12a455191.jpg
Views: 294
Size:  50.8 KB
I am waiting on my D ring mounts to fit them in, then it will all get welded up and I am planning on some tube work for side protection and a small stinger type bar in front and then of course mount up the winch and trim the front crossmember when I get the money together.
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 03:06 AM
  #2  
Member
 
dohc91gli's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: McMinnville Oregon
Posts: 115
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

where will the winch go? I think I'm a bit confused... will it go behind the plate?
dohc91gli is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 07:21 AM
  #3  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Yes it'll be mounted feet forward behind the bumper, similar to the ORS stubby bumper. It will require trimming out of the front crossmember.
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 11:20 AM
  #4  
CF Veteran
 
HS00XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ross Vegas, Ga
Posts: 1,843
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 w/ tupy head
Default

Any fender protection plans? Poat some pics with it off whhen you go paint it.have you clearenced a winch in thier ?
HS00XJ is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 01:55 PM
  #5  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by HS00XJ View Post
Any fender protection plans? Poat some pics with it off whhen you go paint it.have you clearenced a winch in thier ?
Yes I'm going to bend up a hoop and some side protection. Waiting on my d ring mounts to get here, then it will all get welded up and I can start bending up the other pieces. I will definitely post up more in the next few days, hope to get it all finished this weekend.
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 02:03 PM
  #6  
CF Veteran
 
wiggles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: shawnee,ks
Posts: 9,897
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

You need to weld your brackets to the frame plates, 3 bolts per side is not enough for a hard tug or winching. The frame plates maybe strong but aren't affiliated with you bumper mounts.
wiggles is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 04:43 PM
  #7  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by wiggles View Post
You need to weld your brackets to the frame plates, 3 bolts per side is not enough for a hard tug or winching. The frame plates maybe strong but aren't affiliated with you bumper mounts.
No the advantage of using the JCR plates is that the bumper plates bolt through them essentially tieing it all together as one but you can still remove your bumper without having to drop the steering box. It is the same system JCR and a few others use on their winch bumpers. With the JCR plates in place my bumper will be bolting to metal about 1/2" thick. With the bumper plates I will be about 3/4" thick there so yes the frame plates are affiliated with my bumper mounts.
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 08:09 PM
  #8  
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 7
Model: Cherokee
Default

how big of a winch are you planning on putting in there?
ajyeepin8 is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 08:25 PM
  #9  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by ajyeepin8 View Post
how big of a winch are you planning on putting in there?
Standard 8 or 9k lb non integrated solenoid style like the Ramsey, Harbor Freight, Engo, Tabor, Warn Mseries, etc...
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-01-2014, 11:19 PM
  #10  
CF Veteran
 
wiggles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: shawnee,ks
Posts: 9,897
Year: 1993
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Sheering 6 bolts is way easier than 12 or 14...

Last edited by wiggles; 01-02-2014 at 02:21 AM.
wiggles is offline  
Old 01-02-2014, 05:53 AM
  #11  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by wiggles View Post
Sheering 6 bolts is way easier than 12 or 14...
The problem with bumpers mounting on XJs is not the strength of the 6 bolts, it's what they bolt to without any reinforcement there, thin sheet metal which rips out. This has been taken care of. All the CJ, YJ, and TJ winch plates I have used bolt on with 4 or 6 bolts and have no issue. If you are worried about 6 bolts shearing take a look at what holds your hook to the end of your winch cable....
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-02-2014, 10:20 PM
  #12  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Okay dug out the bender and started playing around
Name:  d2925e744b463654af2b9f13f8e3ef0e.jpg
Views: 274
Size:  106.5 KB
Bent up a small stinger
Name:  10141520b8ba087057717362022f9d16.jpg
Views: 295
Size:  62.7 KB
I also started the extensions that will go in front of the fenders but didn't get pics of them in place
My d ring mounts showed up at 5pm so after the kids went to bed I snuck out to fit them in and start welding it all together, who cares if its 19 degrees and snowing there's jeep work to be done, I just finished up a few minutes ago
Name:  1bc4deb70be562a25c28db9aa90fe8d6.jpg
Views: 274
Size:  75.6 KB
Tacked in place
Name:  c984739b03ad0fe07e4370165ef813fe.jpg
Views: 281
Size:  93.3 KB
The d ring mounts will be fully perimeter welded and plug welded through the mounting plates
Mostly welded up
Name:  7968b06dabebe503daac45b91dfbaff9.jpg
Views: 280
Size:  78.1 KB
That's where it sits for tonight, I didn't want to **** off my neighbors too much by grinding this late. Hopefully after I finish shovelling this snow tomorrow I can get my tube work welded on and paint this thing up and mount it up. I might have a line on a super cheap winch too.
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-02-2014, 10:51 PM
  #13  
CF Veteran
 
HS00XJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ross Vegas, Ga
Posts: 1,843
Year: 2000
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 w/ tupy head
Default

Good job ive got to get motivated to do mine.
HS00XJ is offline  
Old 01-03-2014, 03:24 PM
  #14  
Junior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cranford, NJ
Posts: 47
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Finished the welding and got the hoop welded on too. Attempting to paint it but its only 16 out right now so I'm not sure how it'll come out. I'm going to add some fender protection and supports to the hoop but that can wait a little bit and I still need a winch.
Name:  e51a430678f5d8d48cb83ac24215258b.jpg
Views: 289
Size:  106.4 KB
dharmabum is offline  
Old 01-03-2014, 03:27 PM
  #15  
Junior Member
 
Lowrange2's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: +34 25' 35.67", -81 21' 12.04"
Posts: 15,016
Year: 1993
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by dharmabum View Post
The problem with bumpers mounting on XJs is not the strength of the 6 bolts, it's what they bolt to without any reinforcement there, thin sheet metal which rips out. This has been taken care of. All the CJ, YJ, and TJ winch plates I have used bolt on with 4 or 6 bolts and have no issue. If you are worried about 6 bolts shearing take a look at what holds your hook to the end of your winch cable....
I've never heard it put that way. Good point.

Bumper looks good, btw.
Lowrange2 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Recessed winch bumper build


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

© 2019 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands

We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.