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VitaminLee_ 12-27-2015 09:43 AM

Zj trans issue
 
Just bought a 96 zj. Trans was rebuilt less than 20k ago. It's a 5.2 awd. It seems like it holds first gear too long. I've owned a 97 limited few years ago and I don't remember it holding first that long. Is there any adjustments I can do. Or is this normal. I haven't gotten it tagged yet so I haven't gotten to take it up the highway. I bought it had steering issues. I got a good deal on it so I bought it without driving it far. But the gentleman drove it to Miami from Chicago 7 moths ago. It's been sitting ever since. Maybe I'm just being paranoid. I fixed the steering but drove it around my apartment community. Any information would be greatly appreciated:)

dave1123 12-27-2015 09:47 AM

Check/adjust the trans throttle cable. IDK the procedure on your model, but you should be able to find it on Youtube or a service manual.

wingless 12-27-2015 10:26 AM

The 96 5.2L has the 44RE transmission.

+1 on using the FSM or the ATSG manual.

The FSM says: fluid low / high; filter clogged; throttle misadjusted; linkage binding; gearshift misadjusted; clutch or servo failure; governor electrical fault; front band misadjusted or pump suction leak.

VitaminLee_ 12-27-2015 01:09 PM

I'm going to adjust the cable now. All the fluids are bad also. What fluid does the 44re require? Changing fluid filter and gasket.

VitaminLee_ 12-27-2015 01:10 PM

I hope it's nothing serious. It was claimed to been rebuilt recently!!!

wingless 12-27-2015 02:16 PM

In what way is the fluid bad? Is it contaminated? Yes, that would be bad.

Use ATF+4 fluid.

VitaminLee_ 12-27-2015 02:35 PM

The fluid is bad as in its real black and it's missing 😂😂😂 I adjusted the cable and it's way better. Still holds first too long for my liking. should I try adjusting the bands next. And I'm sure it don't help that it's super low of fluid.

wingless 12-27-2015 05:52 PM

It is black from the very thin friction material having deteriorated off the clutch discs and / or bands, ending up in the fluid.

A fluid change / band adjustment won't restore the friction material.

It won't hurt, but it is likely that a rebuild w/ a new torque converter and line flush is required.

VitaminLee_ 12-27-2015 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by wingless (Post 3190304)
It is black from the very thin friction material having deteriorated off the clutch discs and / or bands, ending up in the fluid. A fluid change / band adjustment won't restore the friction material. It won't hurt, but it is likely that a rebuild w/ a new torque converter and line flush is required.

Will the band adjustment help with the shifting issues until I can get the rebuild. It's shifts really firm and fast. Doesn't waste any time between gears. And pulls real strong. Only issue I have is the lingering in first at low throttle. The cable helped a lot maybe I'm just being picky.

dave1123 12-28-2015 12:05 AM

Try adjusting the cable one more notch either way from where it is now.

VitaminLee_ 12-29-2015 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by dave1123 (Post 3190453)
Try adjusting the cable one more notch either way from where it is now.

Ok. When I set the cable it only came out 1 notch. So I'll try it all the way in and 2 notches out and see what works best

My_dog_rocks 12-29-2015 09:10 PM

Had the same problem with my AWD Jeep when I first got it. Took it to two shops and they both said the same thing, its normal. I finally had a shift kit and an adjustable heavy duty plunger in the valve body. Keep tinkering with the linkage and bands, you might find a place where you like the shift points.

VitaminLee_ 01-04-2016 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by dave1123 (Post 3190453)
Try adjusting the cable one more notch either way from where it is now.

I've gotten it adjusted real good. Still holds first a little longer than I'd like. But once warmed up it shifts like a brand new one!

Bryan98XJ 01-04-2016 08:15 PM

exact same thing happened to my 97 GC and adjusting the rear band did it for me.


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