242 Swap Issue
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242 Swap Issue
Ok, I went underneath my rig to POSSIBLY get it into 2Hi. I saw 2 linkages: 1 from the shifter to the center point to a point on the side of the trans. Then there is one from that trans point to the arm on the transfer case.
When I loosened the shifter linkage to move it, the linkage from the transfer case is stopped from moving completely forward by the point on the transmission. I looked at the plate on the rear of the case, it is does say 242, which I know can be wrong.
Now when I move the lever inside (front to back), I get the following (pictures attached): "Full time", "N", and then "Part time".
Everything I have read on the 242 says that the sequence should go: "2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4LO"
Where is the arm on the transfer case suppose to be located for 2Hi,poitning forward or pointing back?
I am confused and lost, is it my sequencing or my VIC?
Is it possible my 242, really is NOT a 242?
Is it possible that my VIC is reading incorrectly?
How do I really know what gear selection I am in so I can drive this thing without causing an issues?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!
When I loosened the shifter linkage to move it, the linkage from the transfer case is stopped from moving completely forward by the point on the transmission. I looked at the plate on the rear of the case, it is does say 242, which I know can be wrong.
Now when I move the lever inside (front to back), I get the following (pictures attached): "Full time", "N", and then "Part time".
Everything I have read on the 242 says that the sequence should go: "2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4LO"
Where is the arm on the transfer case suppose to be located for 2Hi,poitning forward or pointing back?
I am confused and lost, is it my sequencing or my VIC?
Is it possible my 242, really is NOT a 242?
Is it possible that my VIC is reading incorrectly?
How do I really know what gear selection I am in so I can drive this thing without causing an issues?
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!!!
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If it says 242 someone swapped out your AWD case. Consider it a blessing. 2hi will be all the way foward, leaver laying flat like what it looks like in the first pic.
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get under and look at the tag on the transfer case and see if its a 249 or a 242 looks to me like it only has 3 selections, which means its a 249 not a 242, why do you think its a 242?
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I'll bet someone swapped the 249 for a 242 and didn't change the shifter. I believe you'll not be able to get it into 4lo without the proper shifter. Check it out by trying to shift it underneath after disconnecting the linkage an see what the pattern is. If it's a 242, you should have 5 distinct gear positions. The 249 will have 3.
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i had a chit load typed, but this is easier, read this.
http://www.nagca.com/forum/showthread.php?p=301956
http://www.nagca.com/forum/showthread.php?p=301956
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ah I missed that part of his post, 2wd is all the way forward on the shifter, and 4 low is all the way back,
2wd on the bracket hooked to the transfer case is all the way forward and 4 low is all the way pushed back
if your vic is still reading for the 249 tcase you need to remove the vic and find the wire that is taped up to the harness behind the vic and switch it with the wire that is reading the transfer case position (the plugs will look like they go together) then it will read right
hope that helps
2wd on the bracket hooked to the transfer case is all the way forward and 4 low is all the way pushed back
if your vic is still reading for the 249 tcase you need to remove the vic and find the wire that is taped up to the harness behind the vic and switch it with the wire that is reading the transfer case position (the plugs will look like they go together) then it will read right
hope that helps
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Highly likely he misread the tag and it's actually a 249.
OP, you can remove the tag with a phillips head, take it off and clean it up so you can see it clearly.
It is possible someone swapped a bad 249 for the 242, but lets ID for sure what your dealing with instead of guessing.
OP, you can remove the tag with a phillips head, take it off and clean it up so you can see it clearly.
It is possible someone swapped a bad 249 for the 242, but lets ID for sure what your dealing with instead of guessing.
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Ok, before there is any more arguments, let me clarify. I did have a 249, but it had a bad VC. The shop recommended I do the swap and go with a 242 since eventually this thing will be a trail rig. It was less expensive and will give me better results as it is also a DD.
I still have the stock shifter and linkage as the 242 did not come with any of it. I have been told that all I need is the linkage and all will be good. I am however still confused as to what my VIC is reading. This is where I need clarification. Does the 242 sequence go "2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L"? If so, why is my VIC reading "Full time" when all the way forward?
Should the transfer case arm be pointing front or back when in"2H"?
Thanks for the help, and sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
I still have the stock shifter and linkage as the 242 did not come with any of it. I have been told that all I need is the linkage and all will be good. I am however still confused as to what my VIC is reading. This is where I need clarification. Does the 242 sequence go "2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L"? If so, why is my VIC reading "Full time" when all the way forward?
Should the transfer case arm be pointing front or back when in"2H"?
Thanks for the help, and sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
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Originally Posted by caged
i had a chit load typed, but this is easier, read this.
http://www.nagca.com/forum/showthread.php?p=301956
http://www.nagca.com/forum/showthread.php?p=301956
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Originally Posted by OrvisKrawler
ah I missed that part of his post, 2wd is all the way forward on the shifter, and 4 low is all the way back,
2wd on the bracket hooked to the transfer case is all the way forward and 4 low is all the way pushed back
if your vic is still reading for the 249 tcase you need to remove the vic and find the wire that is taped up to the harness behind the vic and switch it with the wire that is reading the transfer case position (the plugs will look like they go together) then it will read right
hope that helps
2wd on the bracket hooked to the transfer case is all the way forward and 4 low is all the way pushed back
if your vic is still reading for the 249 tcase you need to remove the vic and find the wire that is taped up to the harness behind the vic and switch it with the wire that is reading the transfer case position (the plugs will look like they go together) then it will read right
hope that helps
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Originally Posted by OverlandXJ
Highly likely he misread the tag and it's actually a 249.
OP, you can remove the tag with a phillips head, take it off and clean it up so you can see it clearly.
It is possible someone swapped a bad 249 for the 242, but lets ID for sure what your dealing with instead of guessing.
It is a 242, I had the 249 swapped out. Cheaper than buying a new VC.
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This is where I need clarification. Does the 242 sequence go "2H, 4PT, 4FT, N, 4L"? If so, why is my VIC reading "Full time" when all the way forward?
Should the transfer case arm be pointing front or back when in"2H"?
Thanks for the help, and sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
Should the transfer case arm be pointing front or back when in"2H"?
Thanks for the help, and sorry for any confusion I may have caused.
but what Im not sure about is if the sensor on the case itself is the same from the 242 to the 249, if its different and they used the 249 sensor on the 242 that might be your problem
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Ahhh.... So that it is what I need to find out from the shop on Monday. If the sensor was not there and they swapped the one off the 249, that could be causing the misreading.
Now, if I disconnect the linkage and move the tc arm all the way forward where it is pointing at the transmission, it should be in 2H. And if the sensor is correct, the VIC should read 2H.
Now, if I disconnect the linkage and move the tc arm all the way forward where it is pointing at the transmission, it should be in 2H. And if the sensor is correct, the VIC should read 2H.