Project Graverobber
#31
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WHEW! Big plans! BTW, not sure if you've done any research on it, but there's a HUGE price difference between a 4.6L and 5.0L stroker. 5.0 is almost unheard of, 4.8 and 4.9 is pretty uncommon due to the price difference too. From what I've seen 4.5 is the cheapest and easiest with the least amount of work involved, but most people end up choosing to go with the 4.6 or 4.7 since they've already got the block torn down. 4.5 is the "poor man's stroker", 4.6 or 4.7 offers "best bang for the buck".
Roninofako has a 4.6 liter and Outlaw Star has stroked all kinds of motors... they'd both be good resources to pull from.
Roninofako has a 4.6 liter and Outlaw Star has stroked all kinds of motors... they'd both be good resources to pull from.
Update time:
Im in the middle of rebuilding the cooling system and some interior renovations..
#34
No, I don't lick fish.
#35
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Update:
- Jeep is lifted.
- New tires ordered.
- Purchased a Hi-Lift jack.
Pictures are coming later once I have it a little further a long. Working on moving and life events so the 4x4 and stroker conversions are on the back burner for now.
#36
No, I don't lick fish.
Yes the new Federal Couragia M/T's will look decent despite only being 30 x 9.5 x 15.
Update:
- Jeep is lifted.
- New tires ordered.
- Purchased a Hi-Lift jack.
Pictures are coming later once I have it a little further a long. Working on moving and life events so the 4x4 and stroker conversions are on the back burner for now.
Update:
- Jeep is lifted.
- New tires ordered.
- Purchased a Hi-Lift jack.
Pictures are coming later once I have it a little further a long. Working on moving and life events so the 4x4 and stroker conversions are on the back burner for now.
#37
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It didn't snow here, 29 years without snow. Longer than I've been alive.
Basic update, interior is gutted due to a never ending water leak. Windshield was replaced once upon a time. Carpet was moldy but luckily floor boards were pristine so "preventive rust measures" were taken.
Umm there's a lift with saggy springs and the two wheel drive transmission is in the process of taking a ****. The new place we live doesn't give outdoor power or water so i've done the temporary job of rolling fenders instead of cut the front and cut and fold the rear.
My move is finally done and I can br.. I mean fix the Jeep.
That's about as close as snow got. I'm just east of the dot.
Ice Ice Jeep
Jeep shortly after the lift getting fluids checked and fenders rolled.
Basic update, interior is gutted due to a never ending water leak. Windshield was replaced once upon a time. Carpet was moldy but luckily floor boards were pristine so "preventive rust measures" were taken.
Umm there's a lift with saggy springs and the two wheel drive transmission is in the process of taking a ****. The new place we live doesn't give outdoor power or water so i've done the temporary job of rolling fenders instead of cut the front and cut and fold the rear.
My move is finally done and I can br.. I mean fix the Jeep.
That's about as close as snow got. I'm just east of the dot.
Ice Ice Jeep
Jeep shortly after the lift getting fluids checked and fenders rolled.
#39
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Well the nice thing about being Florida is it is warm now. I bought a longer light bar from wal mart and threw it on. The nice thing about it was that it and the wiring kit used heavy gauge wiring and real connectors and not these 10 cent butt connectors.
So I thought long and hard (not really just did math) and found that for the price of a stroker and a transmission rebuild/replacement (slipping horribly) I could convert to a LQ4/LQ9 for cheaper from the junkyard with a 4L60E and a stand alone harness (which I have built before) with a reflashed ECM. I could then rebuild and upgrade with the vast amount of aftermarket support and performance parts. I would then base the four wheel drive conversion off of the GM powertrain and go from there.
Also, I want to convert it to sand-rail/buggy looking Cherokee in Tan with a bimini style tan top to it. That part is going to be $$$ and I'll have to save up for it bur I think it would come out nice if done right.
So I thought long and hard (not really just did math) and found that for the price of a stroker and a transmission rebuild/replacement (slipping horribly) I could convert to a LQ4/LQ9 for cheaper from the junkyard with a 4L60E and a stand alone harness (which I have built before) with a reflashed ECM. I could then rebuild and upgrade with the vast amount of aftermarket support and performance parts. I would then base the four wheel drive conversion off of the GM powertrain and go from there.
Also, I want to convert it to sand-rail/buggy looking Cherokee in Tan with a bimini style tan top to it. That part is going to be $$$ and I'll have to save up for it bur I think it would come out nice if done right.
#41
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There is going to be money into it but after seeing the capability of a stock 4.8 in a Jeep, going to a stock 6.0 would be pretty fun and not all that much more as I am going have to intake swap for hood clearance and move brackets around for clearance as well.
The one difference I see in my LS swap over all the one's I helped my buddies with is I am not going turbo, I am not putting a cam in, I am not going to rebuild unless the engine requires it. Just a move from the Chevy to the Jeep and go. That will save me time and money making the swap as stock and as boring as possible.
I have begun some custom work on the Jeep to prepare for the LS swap which i will begin documenting over the next few weeks. The first thing I did was pulled the dash out and boy I am going to be building a custom interior harness. This Jeep harness is super ****ed which I think everyone could tell from when i redid the radio wiring. Whoever thought taps in ignition wiring and butt connectors in airbag harnesses was a good idea needs to put all the tools down and step away from cars (well Jeeps at least, they maybe able to work on a PT Loser.)
The one difference I see in my LS swap over all the one's I helped my buddies with is I am not going turbo, I am not putting a cam in, I am not going to rebuild unless the engine requires it. Just a move from the Chevy to the Jeep and go. That will save me time and money making the swap as stock and as boring as possible.
I have begun some custom work on the Jeep to prepare for the LS swap which i will begin documenting over the next few weeks. The first thing I did was pulled the dash out and boy I am going to be building a custom interior harness. This Jeep harness is super ****ed which I think everyone could tell from when i redid the radio wiring. Whoever thought taps in ignition wiring and butt connectors in airbag harnesses was a good idea needs to put all the tools down and step away from cars (well Jeeps at least, they maybe able to work on a PT Loser.)
#42
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Anyone ever order this?
Rock Hard 4x4 Bolt In-Roll Cage
I'm thinking bolt it in, cut the roof and all off, weld it to make it permanent.
Rock Hard 4x4 Bolt In-Roll Cage
I'm thinking bolt it in, cut the roof and all off, weld it to make it permanent.
#43
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Some HP and Torque Numbers for me to place somewhere:
4.0 - 6 - 190 HP - 235 lb-ft
4.8 - 8 - 280 HP - 295 lb-ft
5.3 - 8 - 285 - 310 HP - 325 - 335 lb-ft
6.0 - 8 - 300 HP - 360 lb-ft
The trucks are most common the junkyard I go to so if I only find a 4.8 and 4L60E, I would still be pretty happy with. Either way, I have to go with an LS6 intake and Corvette accessory brackets to fit the Cherokee hood on.
360 lb-ft of torque in a XJ? I think that will go with the smiles per gallon factor.
4.0 - 6 - 190 HP - 235 lb-ft
4.8 - 8 - 280 HP - 295 lb-ft
5.3 - 8 - 285 - 310 HP - 325 - 335 lb-ft
6.0 - 8 - 300 HP - 360 lb-ft
The trucks are most common the junkyard I go to so if I only find a 4.8 and 4L60E, I would still be pretty happy with. Either way, I have to go with an LS6 intake and Corvette accessory brackets to fit the Cherokee hood on.
360 lb-ft of torque in a XJ? I think that will go with the smiles per gallon factor.
#44
No, I don't lick fish.
Some HP and Torque Numbers for me to place somewhere:
4.0 - 6 - 190 HP - 235 lb-ft
4.8 - 8 - 280 HP - 295 lb-ft
5.3 - 8 - 285 - 310 HP - 325 - 335 lb-ft
6.0 - 8 - 300 HP - 360 lb-ft
The trucks are most common the junkyard I go to so if I only find a 4.8 and 4L60E, I would still be pretty happy with. Either way, I have to go with an LS6 intake and Corvette accessory brackets to fit the Cherokee hood on.
360 lb-ft of torque in a XJ? I think that will go with the smiles per gallon factor.
4.0 - 6 - 190 HP - 235 lb-ft
4.8 - 8 - 280 HP - 295 lb-ft
5.3 - 8 - 285 - 310 HP - 325 - 335 lb-ft
6.0 - 8 - 300 HP - 360 lb-ft
The trucks are most common the junkyard I go to so if I only find a 4.8 and 4L60E, I would still be pretty happy with. Either way, I have to go with an LS6 intake and Corvette accessory brackets to fit the Cherokee hood on.
360 lb-ft of torque in a XJ? I think that will go with the smiles per gallon factor.
#45
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All of the LS series engines are great . However if it was me I’d stick with a 4.0 If geared to match its more engine than you’ll ever need . Drove one on 37’s and 4.88’s last year was pretty impressive . However the 4.8 is the cheapest and has ample power for a little XJ. That’s the route I’d go if deternined to go LS. Didn’t bother looking it up but I’d also assume it’s the lightest by a bit . Avoid any Active fuel management engines . Started in 2005 in envoys/trailblazers I believe and 2007 in silverados .