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moparnj 10-21-2012 11:48 PM

2001 xj swap up to a 5.7 HEMI
 
i have a 01 xj with a hole in the side of the block at #4 cyl. so instead of spending the money on a high milage 4.0, i was looking to swap a 5.7 out of a pick up truck that has been crashed, i can use the entire power train, but the only thing that is holding me back is not being able to find a conversion kit for the electrical system. im a mopar level4 certified tech i know how much of a animal that can turn into without one, i want to keep it multi port injection and still have everything work properly without looking like some frankenstine jeep, the only thing i was able to find was motor mounts from rustys. but any input on where i can find a plug and play system would be awsome

odgreen 10-22-2012 12:01 AM

Buy factory wire diagrams from your work assuming you work for a Mopar dealer and build a harness. Cut chop build and get it done.

I've built 40+ harnesses for jeeps, new muscle in old muscle, and..... Hondas.

moparnj 10-22-2012 12:18 AM

making the wires connect from one end to the other doesnt worrie me, im more interested in the controller end of the stick. and at some point there is going to have to be a cross over from the 5.7engine to the remaining jeep. if its a stand alone engine controler with no communication to the cluster, ill have allot of homework to do and cutting, splicing and making new circuits. for all the effort that is going to be if no one has a offering for one ill probably start building them for sale. but im still hopeong someone has already done the homework for it

odgreen 10-22-2012 12:27 AM

That's what I'm saying. Make the 2 work.


If I can shove a injected hemi in a 70 cuda and build a harness you should be able to make 2 match

jeepsurfer1 10-22-2012 03:27 AM

At least its mopar and mopar, you should be able to get everything working like stock its all about time, just saying.. also is the motor trans going to be to Long? Also welcome to the fourm man!

moparnj 10-26-2012 06:53 PM

A 545rfe isn't much longer than the auto trans that's in it now. But the problem I'm worried about is going to be the computer system. Its easy to put a stand alone system in a old car because it has nothing that needs communication with the pcm. And if you don't know what I mean by that. I'm going to have to figure out how to make a NGC or SBEC pcm comunicate with the JTEC pcm and system.

Boost Happy 10-26-2012 07:33 PM

They is no current conversion for ngc bus to jtec. A custom pcm would have to made for the setup. It would have to be a standalone management with the ability to control a drive by wire system. Or you could swap everything over from the truck, then you would have to deal with issues with immobilizer, bcm, gauge cluster, ect. Just a huge mess. The hemi is just a pain in the ***

dnuccio 10-26-2012 08:14 PM

Worth the pain in the @$$? No
Cool as hell? You bet!
JMHO

moparnj 10-28-2012 01:31 PM

My jeep doesn't have an immobilizer and idk about the truck with the hemi but you can disable the older style with a factory s

dynasty_v6 10-28-2012 02:01 PM

LS swap! it's already been done :p

MslPilot 10-28-2012 06:48 PM


Originally Posted by dynasty_v6 (Post 2100973)
LS swap! it's already been done :p

Wow, Really? :thumbup:

moparnj 10-29-2012 12:23 AM

Why be a sheep, im one to walk my own line.

fallenknight308 10-29-2012 01:02 AM


Originally Posted by moparnj (Post 2101990)
Why be a sheep, im one to walk my own line.

Hell yes! Nice to hear from someone who isn't going to defile yet another Jeep
with a GM motor. :icon_smile:

Boost Happy 10-29-2012 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by fallenknight308 (Post 2102023)
Hell yes! Nice to hear from someone who isn't going to defile yet another Jeep
with a GM motor. :icon_smile:

The XJs started out with gm engines..

jeepsurfer1 10-29-2012 07:20 AM


Originally Posted by Boost Happy
The XJs started out with gm engines..

Once you go mopar... :D

Boost Happy 10-29-2012 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by jeepsurfer1 (Post 2102147)
Once you go mopar... :D

Your **** breaks...

See what I did there? I finished that for you.

stock95sport(for now) 10-29-2012 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by Boost Happy (Post 2102446)
Your **** breaks...

See what I did there? I finished that for you.

:rofl:
There IS a reason that the LS series of engines is currently used in everything from drag Hondas to drift cars to buggys etc. despite anyone's personal views on GM in general, the LS is a friggin beast!

Boost Happy 10-29-2012 11:23 AM

LQ9 is were its at

stock95sport(for now) 10-29-2012 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Boost Happy (Post 2102488)
LQ9 is were its at

Mmmmmm. HELL yeah, thats the 6.0L (stock) right?

For those who don't know, these dudes build some SICK LS's. They also do a couple nice I6 strokers for the Jeep purists:)

http://www.golenengineservice.com/

fallenknight308 10-29-2012 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Boost Happy (Post 2102094)
The XJs started out with gm engines..

Um when?
AMC>Chrysler I don't remember Gm being in there.

Edit: Oh you meant the V6 LOL

jeepsurfer1 10-29-2012 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by Boost Happy

Your **** breaks...

See what I did there? I finished that for you.

Ha ha nice man

Power73 10-29-2012 02:30 PM

this is a great build thread haha

moparnj 11-01-2012 08:13 PM

Any v8 you put in a jeep is nice but I know the ins and outs of a hemi. And being I work a dodge, jeep, chrysler and ram dealer if I get stuck ill email the enginers and see if they have any input

Boost Happy 11-01-2012 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by moparnj (Post 2108502)
Any v8 you put in a jeep is nice but I know the ins and outs of a hemi. And being I work a dodge, jeep, chrysler and ram dealer if I get stuck ill email the enginers and see if they have any input

have fun.

jeepsurfer1 11-01-2012 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by moparnj
Any v8 you put in a jeep is nice but I know the ins and outs of a hemi. And being I work a dodge, jeep, chrysler and ram dealer if I get stuck ill email the enginers and see if they have any input

Sir if you do it, please make a video, I'm not asking you to trash your tires with burnouts, just an overview of your setup. Thinks man!

moparnj 11-10-2012 02:37 AM

The only thing keeping me from doing it is that there is over a month of work involved and my 98 gas getter isn't too fond of snow. But there will be a tire shreading video...... you know, to test the... drivetrain haha

jeepsurfer1 11-10-2012 03:07 AM


Originally Posted by moparnj
The only thing keeping me from doing it is that there is over a month of work involved and my 98 gas getter isn't too fond of snow. But there will be a tire shreading video...... you know, to test the... drivetrain haha

Sweet man!!! I'm excited man!!

northline76 11-10-2012 10:56 AM

Will be watching this one closely. I have plans of eventually putting a 5.7 hemi in my 01 also.

red2000 11-10-2012 11:02 AM

making a harness is the easiest part imo.... just take a picture of the old harness and new one, and you draw how the wires connect, and it its easy once you have written down...

moparnj 11-11-2012 02:54 AM


Originally Posted by red2000
making a harness is the easiest part imo.... just take a picture of the old harness and new one, and you draw how the wires connect, and it its easy once you have written down...


That is the most difficult part. Unless your going to make a garbage setup, the wiring is the most complex part when mating two completely different computer systems

jeepsurfer1 11-11-2012 05:25 AM


Originally Posted by moparnj

That is the most difficult part. Unless your going to make a garbage setup, the wiring is the most complex part when mating two completely different computer systems

And talk about a lot of head scratching !

red2000 11-12-2012 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by moparnj (Post 2123913)
That is the most difficult part. Unless your going to make a garbage setup, the wiring is the most complex part when mating two completely different computer systems

if you have the wiring schematics, its just trace and connect. when i had my spec-v sentra, i helped my buddy swap in a vq35 from a maxima, we were one of a handful of ppl on the sentra forum who did the swap and didnt have one cel....all we did is spread out the wires flat from the old harness, and made a photcopy of the wires, and did the same for the new harness, and we then got the layout of what wire was what, and traced on paper what wire from new connected to wire from old. took about 1-2hours, and went smooth...

aj06bolt12r 03-15-2016 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by red2000 (Post 2125704)
if you have the wiring schematics, its just trace and connect. when i had my spec-v sentra, i helped my buddy swap in a vq35 from a maxima, we were one of a handful of ppl on the sentra forum who did the swap and didnt have one cel....all we did is spread out the wires flat from the old harness, and made a photcopy of the wires, and did the same for the new harness, and we then got the layout of what wire was what, and traced on paper what wire from new connected to wire from old. took about 1-2hours, and went smooth...

Its not that simple in this swap.. The Hemi PCM will not talk to the gauges, ignition ect in the Jeep. From what I can see here the OP is wanting to keep his factory gauges and whatnot.
Also I think on the Hemis they require inputs from the original vehicle body control module before they will allow fuel and spark as part of the security system. This cannon simply be bypassed, its a bag of worms from hell.

dragonkiller32 05-03-2022 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by moparnj (Post 2089332)
i have a 01 xj with a hole in the side of the block at #4 cyl. so instead of spending the money on a high milage 4.0, i was looking to swap a 5.7 out of a pick up truck that has been crashed, i can use the entire power train, but the only thing that is holding me back is not being able to find a conversion kit for the electrical system. im a mopar level4 certified tech i know how much of a animal that can turn into without one, i want to keep it multi port injection and still have everything work properly without looking like some frankenstine jeep, the only thing i was able to find was motor mounts from rustys. but any input on where i can find a plug and play system would be awsome


did you ever do this I’m looking into doing the same thing wanted to know how it went I have a 05 magnum R/T with no title and a 01 Cherokee so I have everything I need besides custom mounts and what not


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