1999 XJ "Grandma Gold"
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Both Monstaliner and Raptor are a multi-part urethane based paint. Both are UV resistant and claim to not fade within the first five years. Both are waterproof, flexible, and have a softer touch than your others bedliners. Both are corrosion, impact and stain resistant. Raptor Liner comes standard as a spray kit while Monstaliner comes standard as a roll on kit. You could definitely spray Monstaliner and get great results from what I have seen, and they have guns for sale on the site but do not offer it as a "kit".
The only negative I have heard about Raptor Liner is from taking body damage it would crack the paint and begin to chip. However, that was maybe 1 in every 100 reviews. It could've simply been due to not good enough prep, who knows. I know for a fact that Monstaliner can take a hit. The misses actually rammed her door into my Scion a month ago and did no damage to the Monstaliner besides a tiny bit of orange smeared on my door. It dented my fender it was that strong of an impact.The Monstaliner does feel a bit harder and not as soft as the Raptor Liner, so I would say Monstaliner wins durability, although both seem really strong. Raptor Liner wins application method. If Monstaliner offered a spray kit I would choose them.
The Monstaliner was really fun rolling it on, especially getting looks from the neighbors. "Honey, the rednecks are at it again rolling their cars orange and slicing the fenders up". Both paints give consistent texture no matter what method you choose to apply it, you can't really mess it up. I'd have to say I like the Raptor's texture better, Monstaliner gives you orange peel texture while Raptor gives you a bit more texture.
Price wise they are similar, $300 for rollers, sandpaper, paint trays, etc. materials, 2 single gallons of tintable Monstaliner, 2 quarts of color and two quarts of hardener. $290 for a spray gun with regulator, 8 single liter bottles of tintable Raptor Liner, 8 bottles of color, and 2 jugs of hardener. It would be another $100 or so if you wanted to spray in the Monstaliner versus rolling it on.
If you decide on Raptor Liner, check out Custom Coat's bedliner spray, it's basically re-branded Raptor Liner but with a ton of variety of colors. An 8-liter kit, which is all you'd need to do the body of an XJ, with color pigment, would run you $290-$320 depending on the color you want.
- $290 and it has everything you need to spray it minus sandpaper and tape.
If I was going to spray my whole rig in either product I would choose Raptor Liner because of the simplicity of the kit.
Monstaliner has a chip sample kit that gives you 40 rolled on squares of each color they offer if you want to check it out before committing to either or. You can request up to 10 for free I believe.
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Thanks! 15x10 3.75BS Ultra Nomads, I really like them. They need some love, they're just about 10 years old and i've never polished them or anything.
On a side note, I am doing the doorless mod over the weekend. I already did the driver side today. I'll have pictures tomorrow when it's done.
On a side note, I am doing the doorless mod over the weekend. I already did the driver side today. I'll have pictures tomorrow when it's done.
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I love running down the road with no doors. Great on tight trails for visibility too. It is especially nice when working on the jeep. I tightened up the tilt column in mine couple weeks ago, yanked the door off so it wasn't in the way. SUCKS on the beach. I went doorless few weeks ago around town after a day in Carova. All the sand in the jeep blew around. Felt like I was being sand blasted. VERY unpleasant. Note to self, take leaf blower to interior before going doorless.
On mine the stock pins were hollow. Ended up knocking those out and welding in a bolt in its place. Bought a long bolt, cut the threads off, slid in from the top, welded head of bolt to top of hinge (door side). Has been working well for last year or so.
I have manual mirrors, windows, and locks. Relocated the door speakers to the dash. No wires to contend with. Since yours is a late model, I assume it has power everything? What are you doing with the wiring?
On mine the stock pins were hollow. Ended up knocking those out and welding in a bolt in its place. Bought a long bolt, cut the threads off, slid in from the top, welded head of bolt to top of hinge (door side). Has been working well for last year or so.
I have manual mirrors, windows, and locks. Relocated the door speakers to the dash. No wires to contend with. Since yours is a late model, I assume it has power everything? What are you doing with the wiring?
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Originally Posted by bad_idea
I love running down the road with no doors. Great on tight trails for visibility too. It is especially nice when working on the jeep. I tightened up the tilt column in mine couple weeks ago, yanked the door off so it wasn't in the way. SUCKS on the beach. I went doorless few weeks ago around town after a day in Carova. All the sand in the jeep blew around. Felt like I was being sand blasted. VERY unpleasant. Note to self, take leaf blower to interior before going doorless.
On mine the stock pins were hollow. Ended up knocking those out and welding in a bolt in its place. Bought a long bolt, cut the threads off, slid in from the top, welded head of bolt to top of hinge (door side). Has been working well for last year or so.
I have manual mirrors, windows, and locks. Relocated the door speakers to the dash. No wires to contend with. Since yours is a late model, I assume it has power everything? What are you doing with the wiring?
On mine the stock pins were hollow. Ended up knocking those out and welding in a bolt in its place. Bought a long bolt, cut the threads off, slid in from the top, welded head of bolt to top of hinge (door side). Has been working well for last year or so.
I have manual mirrors, windows, and locks. Relocated the door speakers to the dash. No wires to contend with. Since yours is a late model, I assume it has power everything? What are you doing with the wiring?
Also, for people with a lot of power options you can get door plugs from zjs with the infinity sound system and solder all the wires in to a quick disconnect. That's my plan with my Cherokee.
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I knocked out all four pins this morning with a drill bit, a dremel and a ton of patience. I drilled each hinge on the jeep and the door to 3/8" then I bought 4x 3/8 cottorless hitch pins and tossed them in. As for the wiring, I do have power everything, so I broke off the clips to the plugs on each side and for now I just have to route the harness through the body. I've seen some people so quick disconnects from a ZJ but for now I don't mind the extra minute per side. Now I'm off to fab some ATV mirrors to the door hinge so I don't get pulled over when door less.
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Originally Posted by CantDrive55
I knocked out all four pins this morning with a drill bit, a dremel and a ton of patience. I drilled each hinge on the jeep and the door to 3/8" then I bought 4x 3/8 cottorless hitch pins and tossed them in. As for the wiring, I do have power everything, so I broke off the clips to the plugs on each side and for now I just have to route the harness through the body. I've seen some people so quick disconnects from a ZJ but for now I don't mind the extra minute per side. Now I'm off to fab some ATV mirrors to the door hinge so I don't get pulled over when door less.
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I have a buddy who's gonna fab me a pair like he has. I just really wanted to drive around town doorless so this set up is only temporarily. Thanks for all the advice and tips guys!
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I had an argument with some ******* at work telling me it was illegal to drive without doors on my jeep. Wranglers are ok, because they were built that way. I politely asked him to mind his own business. Had the same argument with a cop about driving my Camaro without a door, but that's a long story. Good call on getting a mirror VBPD are ********. Grew up there, I can say it from experience.
As far as the mirror, I bought a mirror for a CJ off of Amazon ($12) and made an adapter to attach it to the upper door hinge. Works smashingly. Held on with a wing nut. Attaches in under a minute and lays on the back floor board when I don't need it.
As far as the mirror, I bought a mirror for a CJ off of Amazon ($12) and made an adapter to attach it to the upper door hinge. Works smashingly. Held on with a wing nut. Attaches in under a minute and lays on the back floor board when I don't need it.