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#4276
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Year: 1998
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Hello all...
I will be in the Catlett, Warrenton area coming up from Charlottesville tomorrow...
Will anyone be around during the day to meet up and say hey, maybe lunch? I'd like to meet some other XJ people around the area...
I will be around most of the day, possibly overnight before I have to head back to Charlottesville...
I will be in the Catlett, Warrenton area coming up from Charlottesville tomorrow...
Will anyone be around during the day to meet up and say hey, maybe lunch? I'd like to meet some other XJ people around the area...
I will be around most of the day, possibly overnight before I have to head back to Charlottesville...
#4277
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Year: 91/96
Model: Cherokee
Hello all...
I will be in the Catlett, Warrenton area coming up from Charlottesville tomorrow...
Will anyone be around during the day to meet up and say hey, maybe lunch? I'd like to meet some other XJ people around the area...
I will be around most of the day, possibly overnight before I have to head back to Charlottesville...
I will be in the Catlett, Warrenton area coming up from Charlottesville tomorrow...
Will anyone be around during the day to meet up and say hey, maybe lunch? I'd like to meet some other XJ people around the area...
I will be around most of the day, possibly overnight before I have to head back to Charlottesville...
#4279
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Location: Fauquier County, Virginia
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Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I-6 4.0 HO
Just a shot in the dark. I've really got to replace the hard brake line running from the prop valve to the rear soft line. Hell, I don't even need the whole line replaced as the last 1/3 going to the prop valve is perfectly fine. I simply have no knowledge of flaring and it looks like I can't even get a pipe cutter in this tight space. Any Warrenton area fellow Jeepers potentially have time to lend a help hand/expertise? I can supply beer of choice and you can take the rest home (of age of course). Just trying to tackle this thing.
Edit: Pizza too!
Edit: Pizza too!
Last edited by 1991Jeep_Man; 11-30-2014 at 03:02 PM.
#4280
Beach Bum
I'm too far to be of much help but,
the double flare can be practiced a couple times before doing it on the real thing. Brake lines on the XJ are 'double flare'. I have also seen 'bubble flare' at the proportion valve.
Try one of these tubing cutters (picture).
But if the cutters will hardly fit, then getting the flare tool set and made in that spot could be very difficult. Consider cutting somewhere you can easily flare it, otherwise run it all the way.
I do not recommend compression fittings for a permanent fix.
the double flare can be practiced a couple times before doing it on the real thing. Brake lines on the XJ are 'double flare'. I have also seen 'bubble flare' at the proportion valve.
Try one of these tubing cutters (picture).
But if the cutters will hardly fit, then getting the flare tool set and made in that spot could be very difficult. Consider cutting somewhere you can easily flare it, otherwise run it all the way.
I do not recommend compression fittings for a permanent fix.
#4281
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Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I-6 4.0 HO
I'm too far to be of much help but,
the double flare can be practiced a couple times before doing it on the real thing. Brake lines on the XJ are 'double flare'. I have also seen 'bubble flare' at the proportion valve.
Try one of these tubing cutters (picture).
But if the cutters will hardly fit, then getting the flare tool set and made in that spot could be very difficult. Consider cutting somewhere you can easily flare it, otherwise run it all the way.
I do not recommend compression fittings for a permanent fix.
the double flare can be practiced a couple times before doing it on the real thing. Brake lines on the XJ are 'double flare'. I have also seen 'bubble flare' at the proportion valve.
Try one of these tubing cutters (picture).
But if the cutters will hardly fit, then getting the flare tool set and made in that spot could be very difficult. Consider cutting somewhere you can easily flare it, otherwise run it all the way.
I do not recommend compression fittings for a permanent fix.
No compressions, could not agree more! I want something that will last.
#4285
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Location: Winchester, VA
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Year: 1991
Model: Comanche
Engine: 4.0
Don't think I've posted in here yet. I'm from the Winchester area. Currently building up my MJ. Hoping it will be off road worthy by spring. Looking forward to meeting up with some people next year. Planning a Rausch Creek trip next summer.
#4286
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Year: '95
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0 HO
I get out towards Winchester all the time. Hopefully I'll see your rig out on the trails one of these days!
#4287
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Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I-6 4.0 HO
Got the old brake line coming out. A few questions:
1) the end of the line going into the soft line is uber rusted and I can't break it loose. I had to break the end off of the line to get it out. I think I have rounded the flare nut... am I screwed? Im going to try and smack a socket on it and get that flare nut out.
2) AutoZone only had brass flare unions for my sections of line. I will have 2 of these unions joining my long piece to the piece running up beside beside control arm and finally that piece to the last section going to the proportioning valve. These are inverted flare unions... no compression.
3) I need to swap my soft lines on my rear calipers to Better route the hard lines on the axle; basically the left caliper soft line on the right and vise versa. Any harm?
Thanks yall!
1) the end of the line going into the soft line is uber rusted and I can't break it loose. I had to break the end off of the line to get it out. I think I have rounded the flare nut... am I screwed? Im going to try and smack a socket on it and get that flare nut out.
2) AutoZone only had brass flare unions for my sections of line. I will have 2 of these unions joining my long piece to the piece running up beside beside control arm and finally that piece to the last section going to the proportioning valve. These are inverted flare unions... no compression.
3) I need to swap my soft lines on my rear calipers to Better route the hard lines on the axle; basically the left caliper soft line on the right and vise versa. Any harm?
Thanks yall!
#4288
Beach Bum
Got the old brake line coming out. A few questions:
1) the end of the line going into the soft line is uber rusted and I can't break it loose. I had to break the end off of the line to get it out. I think I have rounded the flare nut... am I screwed? Im going to try and smack a socket on it and get that flare nut out.
2) AutoZone only had brass flare unions for my sections of line. I will have 2 of these unions joining my long piece to the piece running up beside beside control arm and finally that piece to the last section going to the proportioning valve. These are inverted flare unions... no compression.
3) I need to swap my soft lines on my rear calipers to Better route the hard lines on the axle; basically the left caliper soft line on the right and vise versa. Any harm?
Thanks yall!
1) the end of the line going into the soft line is uber rusted and I can't break it loose. I had to break the end off of the line to get it out. I think I have rounded the flare nut... am I screwed? Im going to try and smack a socket on it and get that flare nut out.
2) AutoZone only had brass flare unions for my sections of line. I will have 2 of these unions joining my long piece to the piece running up beside beside control arm and finally that piece to the last section going to the proportioning valve. These are inverted flare unions... no compression.
3) I need to swap my soft lines on my rear calipers to Better route the hard lines on the axle; basically the left caliper soft line on the right and vise versa. Any harm?
Thanks yall!
2) As long as they are flared. What type of brake line are you using, basic steel or nickel?
3) Better than swapping the calipers (that was a joke). Swapping soft lines should be fine.
#4289
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Year: 1991
Model: Cherokee
Engine: I-6 4.0 HO
1) When that happened to me on the front line, I had to cut it, slide on a new fitting and double flare the cut brake line.
2) As long as they are flared. What type of brake line are you using, basic steel or nickel?
3) Better than swapping the calipers (that was a joke). Swapping soft lines should be fine.
2) yes, absolutely flared. Double flared. I am using the green line from AutoZone so I reckon it is basic steel.
3) I was thinking of swapping the calipers and just modifying the rotor to sit on the axle tubes. Lol!
#4290
Beach Bum
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1) I see. Might have to bite the bullet and get a replacement soft line. The Dodge Dakota rear line is 6" longer and costs $20.
Jeep YJ = 3" longer, $30
2) Steel lines, consider painting or undercoating them when finished.
3) Seriously consider replacing the soft lines to caliper if not already done with the ZJ swap. They are a known weak point. Replacement with stock is fine.
1) I see. Might have to bite the bullet and get a replacement soft line. The Dodge Dakota rear line is 6" longer and costs $20.
Jeep YJ = 3" longer, $30
2) Steel lines, consider painting or undercoating them when finished.
3) Seriously consider replacing the soft lines to caliper if not already done with the ZJ swap. They are a known weak point. Replacement with stock is fine.
Last edited by SteveMongr; 12-13-2014 at 06:50 PM.