Well guys i apperciate all the help but both of those places are going to take alot of money just to get there....but i suppose its better then waiting for winter here, and it pretty much goes to show theres nothing here on the east coast.

my brother goes mudding somewhere south of Ithaca, NY. not sure where but i can find out. he has a 1996 Cherokee Classic, 6" suspension lift, with 30" tires. and loves to get it dirty.

Yeah im closer to buffalo if it helps any, it sucks i cant get on a farm at least for a day.

theres I couple places out near johnstown gloversville mayfield area depending if u want mud or rocks:brows:

Well the one that is going to cost less in repairs would be great haha

Ok well there all not to bad there's harder trails off the main trail