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Old 06-30-2018, 08:42 PM
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Cell phone yes, FM radio sure but nix that flare. Unless you want to be found as the cause of a wild fire. But remember, you may be somewhere where there is no cell service. In a pinch you can get on top of a tall mountain and sometimes get one bar.
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Tip #6 Know where you are going and tell someone about it. This involves doing some homework and planning your trip. You should learn to read topographic maps. The whole country has been mapped, and as far as that goes, the whole world.



You can get these maps for free at usgs.gov. The website is not as easy to use as before they improved it.

However there is another cool source:

https://www.natgeomaps.com/trail-maps/pdf-quads

Once you have downloaded your maps and study them, you can print them and make a map book to carry with you.

After that, you can get a cheap app for your phone called Backcountry Navigator that uses these same free maps. Download the maps to your phone and use them to locate and track yourself

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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
Cell phone yes, FM radio sure but nix that flare. Unless you want to be found as the cause of a wild fire. But remember, you may be somewhere where there is no cell service. In a pinch you can get on top of a tall mountain and sometimes get one bar.
CB radio not FM I just mentioned the flare cause it's in some of the old emergency kits, I wouldn't use one cause like you said forest fire is not a good thing
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Well, I was just doing a preferred check list. The FM will get much farther than the CB. But CB is still good
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
Tip #6 Know where you are going and tell someone about it. This involves doing some homework and planning your trip. You should learn to read topographic maps. The whole country has been mapped, and as far as that goes, the whole world.



You can get these maps for free at usgs.gov. The website is not as easy to use as before they improved it.

However there is another cool source:

https://www.natgeomaps.com/trail-maps/pdf-quads

Once you have downloaded your maps and study them, you can print them and make a map book to carry with you.

After that, you can get a cheap app for your phone called Backcountry Navigator that uses these same free maps. Download the maps to your phone and use them to locate and track yourself

I was waiting to see who was going to get this most important one in here. This absolutely should be #1.

Here is a site I have been using for years now and it's free. they can be printed out from the topo server.

https://www.mytopo.com/maps/index.cfm
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Yup, but people are getting lazy nowadays. They just rely on the GPS and don't realize most of them rely on a phone tower to work. Any of the Google based stuff is that way. Many of the dedicated GPS maps don't have the topographic feature, just roads and location. I think this is the best bang for the buck. It is also how I find cool places to wheel. The map on the phone is a nice trail that was once paved but now requires lockers and is not on any of the digital trail map web sites
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Originally Posted by 4.3L XJ
Yup, but people are getting lazy nowadays. They just rely on the GPS and don't realize most of them rely on a phone tower to work. Any of the Google based stuff is that way. Many of the dedicated GPS maps don't have the topographic feature, just roads and location. I think this is the best bang for the buck. It is also how I find cool places to wheel. The map on the phone is a nice trail that was once paved but now requires lockers and is not on any of the digital trail map web sites
Trusting GPS can get you killed. We lose three or so a year out here in the desert.
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Well, I was just doing a preferred check list. The FM will get much farther than the CB. But CB is still good
Wait you can use FM to communicate? I didn't know this
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Wait you can use FM to communicate? I didn't know this
FM is a HAM band. You can buy radios with both bands, AM CB band and 10 meter FM. But... You are supposed to have a license to key up on 10 meter. There are FRS FM frequencies but they don't travel much farther than a CB because they are "Line of sight" and get blocked pretty easy.
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Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
FM is a HAM band. You can buy radios with both bands, AM CB band and 10 meter FM. But... You are supposed to have a license to key up on 10 meter. There are FRS FM frequencies but they don't travel much farther than a CB because they are "Line of sight" and get blocked pretty easy.
Ah ok, The CB I have I can get out about 18 miles with but if I turn it up I get 27 or even 30!
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Ah ok, The CB I have I can get out about 18 miles with but if I turn it up I get 27 or even 30!
Mine is an AM FM I spoke of and I can get horizon to horizon with AM on flat land. But I'm pushing about 350 watts on high with a Ranger.

On FM I'm talking to Alaska from Az when the conditions are right.
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Originally Posted by Bugout4x4
Mine is an AM FM I spoke of and I can get horizon to horizon with AM on flat land. But I'm pushing about 350 watts on high with a Ranger.

On FM I'm talking to Alaska from Az when the conditions are right.
Definitely! The ranger is really good, my CB is a bearcat 880. Which is impressive when you consider the antenna is only a 4 foot magnetic
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Originally Posted by Ironside93
Definitely! The ranger is really good, my CB is a bearcat 880. Which is impressive when you consider the antenna is only a 4 foot magnetic
I run a full steel whip because it gets HOT when I key up for any length of time. On high It will melt the plastic off the outside of fiberglass antennas and the element comes unwound.. lol
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I run a full steel whip because it gets HOT when I key up for any length of time. On high It will melt the plastic off the outside of fiberglass antennas and the element comes unwound.. lol
That's never good!
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Originally Posted by Ironside93
That's never good!
They make cooled antennas but they are bulky and a pain to mount where they won't get ripped off from brush out wheeling.


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