closeenoughxj

Hey im wanting to here from the FL guys and gals out here on what I should do about a lift im wanting to go 6.5 in but undecided if i should go with la or sa because not to many trails in fl mainly just mud any input would be great!!!

closeenoughxj

anybody?

bjinthexj

la is going to have way better road manners, helps get rid of death wobble and bump steer. Going that big need to get a sye kit and cv driveshaft.

SeriousOffroad

Long arms won't cure death wobble. Not sure what your source is...but it's incorrect.

To the OP:
https://www.cherokeeforum.com/search...archid=1429071

bjinthexj

Yes longarms dont cure deathwobble. Read again, I said they help. There are other contributing factors to death wobble. Dont be so quick to respond

SeriousOffroad

You are mistaken. Death wobble is a function of incorrect steering geometry, either as a result of improper alignment or worn parts.

bjinthexj

going with a sa set increases angles of the suspension resulting in ride issues and yes death wobble, la lengthens the suspensions arms, moving the arms farther back on the frame and turning the suspensions geometry back to somewhere near stock and helps caster angles which if off can cause death wobble. Yes, other factors do play in deathwobble, draglink, trackbar, alignment, balljoints, ect.

SeriousOffroad

You seem dead set on winning an un-winable argument.

Long arms increase the amount of suspension travel when the sway bars are disconnect.
Long arms locate and maintain the front axle at a given point in relation to the frame side mounting point.
The upper arm(s) are used to maintain the caster and pinion angle. Incorrect caster will have a negative affect on Return to Center, and if the caster is not correct then the pinion angle won't be correct either.


The most common cause of death wobble are:
Incorrect toe-in/out.
(Not a function of the LA's)
Worn out TRE's
(Not affected by LA's)
Loose Frame side track bar mount or wallowed out hole in axle side mount.
(LA's will magically cure either.)
Wheel/Tire issues including bent rims, missing weights, uneven wear.
(LA's have no bearing on any of these.)

Once again:
Death wobble is a result of problems with the STEERING GEOMETRY. Long arm suspensions cannot correct that.

xjmarc

I ran 7" on short arms and have yet to have death wobble yet when we built my brother's ZJ with 4" it did. Replaced the tie rod ends, which were garbage and now his rides smooth. Arm length has nothing to do with death wobble. FYI I have had it on my Cummins and it's a 2wd so no arms, unless you count a arms, and it was a tie rod issue as well. I know I'll get some arguements here but steering stabilizers don't cause it either otherwise I would have lots of problems cause my XJ and CJ don't have them. They will hide a little bit of it but only till it wears the shock out.