Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here XJ (84-01)
All OEM related XJ specific tech. Examples, no start, general maintenance or anything that's stock.

XJ Fuel Economy question

Old 03-02-2018, 08:50 PM
  #1  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
RocketMouse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Southern Texas (former AZ & Aus)
Posts: 2,414
Received 249 Likes on 199 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee(XJ)
Engine: I6 4.0L
Default XJ Fuel Economy question

I know... I know... before the flaming starts about the words MPG and Jeep being mentioned in the same sentence. lol....

The XJ's in pretty good nic overall. When I was living at approx. 5,000 ft. above sea level, I was averaging between 15-17 mpg in-town on the standard crap winter blend.
I just recently moved to a place where I'm now at just over 7,000 ft. and on the same octane crap winter blend, in nearly identical driving conditions in-town, I'm averaging 12-13 mpg.
The Jeep still seems to run well, and mechanically unchanged from my previous location.
So my question is.... does a 2k in altitude increase cause that much of a difference in the AFR? And any ideas on if it's possible to adjust it for the new higher altitude?
And small side note.... on the move to my new location I rolled right around 70 mph (give or take a hair) the whole way and averaged 19-22 mpg on the highway. Which I thought was quite good for a 19 yr old 4 litre 6.
Thanks!

Last edited by RocketMouse; 03-02-2018 at 08:54 PM.
Old 03-02-2018, 09:11 PM
  #2  
Seasoned Member
 
StealthyMcStealth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Apache Junction, AZ
Posts: 458
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Year: 1993
Model: Grand Cherokee(ZJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

I have done some reading on this and our older Jeeps are different than modern vehicles. Basically the thinner air makes it run rich and the computer isn't smart enough to correct the AFR. That is a way over simplification but basically says what could be happening.

Or... it could be that your new area has a couple more uphill climbs, or a few more long red lights, stuff like that can change your mileage too.

The only fix that I know of is an aftermarket engine management system, which is pricey.
Old 03-02-2018, 10:01 PM
  #3  
Seasoned Member
 
craigjacob1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Idaho
Posts: 304
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Year: 1990
Engine: Renix 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by StealthyMcStealth
I have done some reading on this and our older Jeeps are different than modern vehicles. Basically the thinner air makes it run rich and the computer isn't smart enough to correct the AFR. That is a way over simplification but basically says what could be happening.

Or... it could be that your new area has a couple more uphill climbs, or a few more long red lights, stuff like that can change your mileage too.

The only fix that I know of is an aftermarket engine management system, which is pricey.


Pretty much.
Since you have a 99 you could probably get the modification you need from a performance chip.
I haven't done any research on chips because I'm running a renix ecu.

$200 - $600 seems to be the price range.
If it does give you 4+MPG it will pay for its self in a few months (depending on driving habits).
Old 03-03-2018, 06:16 AM
  #4  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,862
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

It's not the AFR. It's lack of air.

There is a loss of horsepower as you go up in altitude and I would think a loss in fuel economy also. Lower compression....
Old 03-03-2018, 07:57 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
s346k's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: central IN
Posts: 2,282
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 11 Posts
Year: 1997
Engine: 4.0
Default

educate yourself on density altitude. same reason drag cars suffer in high da situations. the air is less dense resulting in less power. natures way of making an na engine be far less efficient from end to end.
Old 03-03-2018, 09:18 AM
  #6  
::CF Moderator::
 
cruiser54's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Prescott, Az
Posts: 43,862
Received 1,524 Likes on 1,236 Posts
Year: 1990
Model: Cherokee (XJ)
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by s346k
educate yourself on density altitude. same reason drag cars suffer in high da situations. the air is less dense resulting in less power. natures way of making an na engine be far less efficient from end to end.
That's the term I couldn't remember earlier this morning!!!
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
wheelean
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
21
06-01-2011 02:52 PM
MrPants
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
16
05-01-2011 07:13 PM
thebrow89
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
10
12-24-2008 01:41 PM
Belto
Stock XJ Cherokee Tech. All XJ Non-modified/stock questions go here
41
04-03-2008 11:11 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: XJ Fuel Economy question



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:59 AM.