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Old 07-07-2017, 10:57 PM
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Thanks. So basically don't waste the time or effort on it, the d35 is fine for now. If I got the gears out of the differential, would it give my 87 2.5l more get up and go?
There are many issues with this thought process. First, you can't take gears from a dana 44 and put them in a dana 35 (if indeed the axle is a 44). Second, a 2.5l Cherokee would've come with a gear ratio with more "get up and go" from the factory than a 4.0, 5.2, or 5.9 grand Cherokee most likely. Third, you can't just take gears and throw them in another axle, it takes a good bit of time, knowledge, tools, install kits, and patience. If you do indeed want to upgrade your rear axle at some point, a Cherokee 97-01 with an 8.25 or a Cherokee with a 44 would be the easiest swaps. The reason for the 97-01 8.25 and not just any is that it has more splines than the older 8.25.
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Thanks. So basically don't waste the time or effort on it, the d35 is fine for now. If I got the gears out of the differential, would it give my 87 2.5l more get up and go?
There's no interchange if it's got the D44. If it's got the D35 it would depend on the gear ratio.
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The the master lock module is the passenger door . now that I did not know , inside of the window switch ? , ok take it apart see were the power is lost . I had to replace the drivers side switch because of the parental override for the windows was bad thought that would be the master for the locks as well , now I know . Thank you Salad !!
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1992 Limited, power everything. Seatbelt tensioner? It appears directional.
Definitely not seatbelt tensioner. I don't have that in my '92. Do you have ABS? It may be the ABS controller. I know those are in the interior, whereas the ABS pump is in the engine bay near the Master Cylinder.

EDIT: Looks like someone may have deleted the ABS system seeing as that's unplugged.
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There are many issues with this thought process. First, you can't take gears from a dana 44 and put them in a dana 35 (if indeed the axle is a 44). Second, a 2.5l Cherokee would've come with a gear ratio with more "get up and go" from the factory than a 4.0, 5.2, or 5.9 grand Cherokee most likely. Third, you can't just take gears and throw them in another axle, it takes a good bit of time, knowledge, tools, install kits, and patience. If you do indeed want to upgrade your rear axle at some point, a Cherokee 97-01 with an 8.25 or a Cherokee with a 44 would be the easiest swaps. The reason for the 97-01 8.25 and not just any is that it has more splines than the older 8.25.
thanks for the blunt honesty(no sarcasm). I changed the tires to bigger and wider tires, now the speedometer is 5mph slow. And the power is sad, a Prius is faster even in lower gears, so I'm going to try getting the most out of it before I do an engine swap. Kinda waiting for the Cummings 2.8 turbo desiel to come out. See how much it and an ax15 would cost first to see which route I want. But I'd like to be able to climb 6% grades in 4th without losing speed on the high way in the meantime

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There's no interchange if it's got the D44. If it's got the D35 it would depend on the gear ratio.
Did they vairy from the factory? If so, how would I check? If not, everything on it is stock basically to the best of my knowledge (except rims/tires, brush guard, tow hooks and trailer hitch).

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Did they vairy from the factory? If so, how would I check? If not, everything on it is stock basically to the best of my knowledge (except rims/tires, brush guard, tow hooks and trailer hitch).
Yes, if they didn't there would be no point in swapping em. But as stated above you have two issues.

1- You have a 4cyl so your gears are already more acceleration-oriented than anything your gonna pull out of a GC.

2- Installing gears is an art form, and absolutely MUST be done right. If pinion depth/gear lash is even slightly off the gear will whine and howl, and eventually destroy themselves.

Also, if your rig is 4wd you HAVE to change them all at the same time, or you'll instantly trash your transfer case. Between all related parts and paying a professional to install, figure on about a grand to do both axles. You want lockers, you can about double that number.


My rig had 33s when I got it with stock gears(4.0L/3.55 gears) and it sucked to drive on the highway. I knew I wasn't ready to do gears, locker, etc yet, so I switched to 31" tires. That's my suggestion to you, mount smaller tires till you're ready to tackle putting more power to the ground.
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Originally Posted by TwistedWrench
Yes, if they didn't there would be no point in swapping em. But as stated above you have two issues.

1- You have a 4cyl so your gears are already more acceleration-oriented than anything your gonna pull out of a GC.

2- Installing gears is an art form, and absolutely MUST be done right. If pinion depth/gear lash is even slightly off the gear will whine and howl, and eventually destroy themselves.

Also, if your rig is 4wd you HAVE to change them all at the same time, or you'll instantly trash your transfer case. Between all related parts and paying a professional to install, figure on about a grand to do both axles. You want lockers, you can about double that number.


My rig had 33s when I got it with stock gears(4.0L/3.55 gears) and it sucked to drive on the highway. I knew I wasn't ready to do gears, locker, etc yet, so I switched to 31" tires. That's my suggestion to you, mount smaller tires till you're ready to tackle putting more power to the ground.
I'd have my uncle help. He's a mechanic. Give him a bottle of vodka and like 200$ he'd probably do it if I bought all the parts. So how would I check to see which gear ratio I have since they had different ones? Mine is a base level 2.5l, np231, ax5 and d35 if any of that is relavent
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I'd have my uncle help. He's a mechanic. Give him a bottle of vodka and like 200$ he'd probably do it if I bought all the parts. So how would I check to see which gear ratio I have since they had different ones? Mine is a base level 2.5l, np231, ax5 and d35 if any of that is relavent
that task is best left to a 4x4 shop. Re-gearing is specialized project. It's not a buy a pizza and six pack and wrench with your buddy type thing. I understand he is a mechanic, however regearing is not a normal day to day task for a mechanic. I would make sure your uncle is well versed in regearing before he attempts it. Like the others have said it is a very unforgiving project to get wrong. And if he has had the vodka before he begins forget it.
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that task is best left to a 4x4 shop. Re-gearing is specialized project. It's not a buy a pizza and six pack and wrench with your buddy type thing. I understand he is a mechanic, however regearing is not a normal day to day task for a mechanic. I would make sure your uncle is well versed in regearing before he attempts it. Like the others have said it is a very unforgiving project to get wrong. And if he has had the vodka before he begins forget it.
he works for Lexus so the drinking wouldn't be an issue unless he's trying to get fired. But I'll definitely check with him first, thanks. If not I'll take it to a 4x4 shop
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I'd have my uncle help. He's a mechanic. Give him a bottle of vodka and like 200$ he'd probably do it if I bought all the parts. So how would I check to see which gear ratio I have since they had different ones? Mine is a base level 2.5l, np231, ax5 and d35 if any of that is relavent
Lol, I wouldn't do that job for $200 for the greatest piece of *** on the planet, much less a friend or family member. But who knows, maybe your uncle is a much nicer guy than me.

You're going to need ring and pinions for the D35 as well as the D30, and install kits for both. Since it's all coming out anyway, this is a good time to address bearing hubs and u-joints as well.

Check your rear axle for a small metal tag, held by one of the bolts for your rear cover. It'll tell you the gear ratio.
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Lol, I wouldn't do that job for $200 for the greatest piece of *** on the planet, much less a friend or family member. But who knows, maybe your uncle is a much nicer guy than me.

You're going to need ring and pinions for the D35 as well as the D30, and install kits for both. Since it's all coming out anyway, this is a good time to address bearing hubs and u-joints as well.

Check your rear axle for a small metal tag, held by one of the bolts for your rear cover. It'll tell you the gear ratio.
I set up gears for a friend with only one condition. He had to go wheeling with me the next weekend. I must be a really nice guy haha
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Lol, I wouldn't do that job for $200 for the greatest piece of *** on the planet, much less a friend or family member. But who knows, maybe your uncle is a much nicer guy than me.

You're going to need ring and pinions for the D35 as well as the D30, and install kits for both. Since it's all coming out anyway, this is a good time to address bearing hubs and u-joints as well.

Check your rear axle for a small metal tag, held by one of the bolts for your rear cover. It'll tell you the gear ratio.
he made my manual window into automatic at no charge. Wired in stuff hat took 8 hours (smoke breaks and going inside to cool down included) to make work right, . A 10$ bottle of vodka is standard payment for most of the stuff he helps me with and he doesn't complain. The money isn't anything seeing as he won 20,000$ in his divorce, it'd just be me trying to make the payment more worth the effort. He drinks daily so it might as well be gold to him

it helps being the favorite nephew with the same common interests and I know people who can get things for him he can't get by himself (law enforcement friends who can get extended mags and things) that they get me because they trust me and know me.

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