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Old 01-25-2017, 04:08 PM
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Hello Guys,

I was able (thank you so much for the scheme interface and the software!!!)
to connect my laptop to D2 Diagnostic Connector.

Signals are crazy.

O2 voltage is fixed to 0.7V (RICH) also in closed loop (when the ECU is able to go in closed loop, 5% of the time).

Attached you can find two screenshot coming from my Renix Jeep Cherokee XJ 4.0 1989.

Could be the O2 sensor bad?
The O2 sensor resistance is OK (14 ohm).

Could be the cracked exhaust manifold?

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Lucio.
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is that 14 ohms the heater?

seems like dead sensor with no change in volts. mine is always changing between 0 and 1 volt as i recall.
unplugged it does what?

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if that is fully warmed up running, then that is a bad o2 signal, typical to go bad that way, they should swing from about .1 to about .9vdc.
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.1 to 4.9 volts switching quite rapidly is correct output.
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.1 to 4.9 volts switching quite rapidly is correct output.
ah ok. that makes more sense. So he is stuck in the low range.
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It's important that these O2 sensors have power and ground for their heater element.

Only use NTK/NGK replacements.
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Did they really switch from .1 to almost 5v in 1989?
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Did they really switch from .1 to almost 5v in 1989?
Yep. I've observed it on my factory tester more times than you can imagine.
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Yep. I've observed it on my factory tester more times than you can imagine.
ok. so he is stuck lean then meaning the engine is overly enriching...typical failure mode?
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ok. so he is stuck lean then meaning the engine is overly enriching...typical failure mode?
It not switching is failure mode.
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It not switching is failure mode.
Point made.
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Point made.
Darn tootin'. LOL.

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Probably the O2 sensor is wrong, but crazy...

And, at idle, should remain in closed loop and the O2 voltage should raise to 5V then drop to 0V, again 5V and drop 0V, instead.... nothing.

At idle, about 0.7V fixed.

It's rare that the O2 oscillates.
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Originally Posted by etnaskynet
Probably the O2 sensor is wrong, but crazy...

And, at idle, should remain in closed loop and the O2 voltage should raise to 5V then drop to 0V, again 5V and drop 0V, instead.... nothing.

At idle, about 0.7V fixed.

It's rare that the O2 oscillates.
You either have a bad O2 sensor or no power and/or ground to it's heating element.
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I am monitoring the O2 signal using an LM3914 (Led driver) during
the cruise.

I checked also the heating element, the voltage is present (+12V) also at idle.

Probably the O2 is bad or not for the right model.

Next O2 sensor will be the right Crown model.



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