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Old 01-11-2015, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by roninofako
More good advice. You need to be seeing the ride IN PERSON. Drive it. Poke it. Prod it. Violate it. Well, maybe not the last one.
That includes sliding all the way underneath it on your back to have a look around for rust. Wear a shirt you don't mind getting dirty and take a pocket flashlight with you.

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I've always had better luck on craigslist, in fact bought my XJ there.
On that note, FYI you can search Craigslist in other cities all at once using SearchTempest. (When it asks you to go to AutoTempest instead, decline and stay on SearchTempest.) Sometimes following links there will send you to a different Craigslist page from the one you were trying to reach (part of CL's attempt to thwart outside searches), but just try again if that happens. I have found a few much needed and difficult to find items within a day's drive by using that search.
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I'd be looking on eBay for a set of new *****.

I kid, I kid.

I am with Cruiser. No way am I dropping any money on any vehicle I can't see first. Regardless of buyers protection ect.
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The main reason why I don't look around where I am at, in the hills of West Virginia, is because the area is ridiculous as far as nothing but up and down hills. That's why I figured going south of me would be better (nothing against the west coast).


Oh, I don't go to 4wheelparts, I just use their site for parts dollar figures, I know you can get it cheaper elsewhere.

But it doesn't matter, the guy wouldn't budge on the price so I'm back at square 1.
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Well if you're going to let hilly terrain come between you and getting a jeep...more power to you. Good luck. Seacrest OUT
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Originally Posted by Grafixx01
The main reason why I don't look around where I am at, in the hills of West Virginia, is because the area is ridiculous as far as nothing but up and down hills.
Not sure I understand the logic. What's wrong with Jeeps driven on hills?
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If this is going to be a DD, why sink the money into it to lift, regear and put bigger tires on it when the XJ is a pretty capable wheeler in it's stock form? Adding all the other bits just for show is going to sink your mileage on a vehicle that honestly doesn't get that great of mileage to start with, best I've ever gotten was 24 mpg, all highway, convoying with 15-passenger vans. If the wife thinks a wrangler is unsafe for the small kids in the back don't let her see the aftermath of an uncaged XJ rollover.

@shaky, The theory is that people don't run their vehicles as hard in flatter areas because they don't need to utilize the lower gears and higher RPMs as much. I don't think the theory holds water though.
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I am going to stir the pot with my fellow XJ fans by saying this, but:

You need to seriously consider a mostly stock Grand Cherokee. They are larger inside for those growing kids, and they ride better.

You could daily drive an XJ after doing to it what you want to do, but not everyone is going to be happy.

Remember, happy wife happy life.
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Also, if you plan on lifting the xj, I would strongly, nay, very strongly advise you to do it on your own. You will understand a lot more about the vehicle if you do.

Next, if it's a dd, get a stock grand Cherokee. Yes, lifted jeeps fun times, but as a dd, your mileage will suffer, and 33-35s ain't cheap. That being said, I dd mine with 5" and 35s, that was converted to manual, and running 3.73 gears, I average 15mpg each week.

Just my 2¢
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Originally Posted by Grafixx01
Oh, and her reason for hating the Rubicon Unlimited is because I bought it with 32" tires and a 4" lift but the entire front end had to be rebuilt as it was sitting about 3-4" right, so between parts, labor, new tires, etc, it cost me like $4000.00 right out of pocket right away, and other issues happened after, so I think we ended up dumping like $7500+ within a year just to get it running properly. Then I had a huge rock jump up and hit the steering stabilizer which popped a hole it it, leaked the fluid, and it was a custom job so I and nobody else could find the shocks to replace it. The guy at the 4wheel place told me he'd have to rebuild the front and since the mount for the stabilizer was on the axle, he'd have to cut it off. If he cut the axle, I'd have to buy a new one and then still continue on with rebuilding an entire front-end AGAIN! (I rebuilt it in Tx and had to move to WV for the job). So that's why she hated the Rubicon.
You are not planning on using the four wheel place guy again are you? JMHO, you got screwed, big time.
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You are not planning on using the four wheel place guy again are you? JMHO, you got screwed, big time.
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I guess I didn't read that closely the first time. Yea, you got screwed. Your "jeep guy" was a thief.
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There are good rust free Cherokee's in WV. I got a '00 parts XJ that shows very little surface rust on the underside, it was totaled by a dash fire.
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Was it around those gasoline tankers when it happened?
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yes, an xj with high miles is nothing to stray from if its been taken care of however you have no mechanical skills. 32"+ tires and a 4"+ lift done by a shop to get it done right will cost you just as much as you sank into your wrangler. im not sure why you think this will cost you any less or get you good gas mileage. until you decide to start learning how to diagnose, understand, and work on your vehicle yourself you should stay away from lifted jeeps.
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You might be able to buy an old Prius pretty cheap now.

Watch out though. I've heard the battery pack is worn out at 150,000 miles and that it is $3500 to replace.
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