why do 4.0 XJs use mechanical and electric cooling fans?
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AMC did indeed create the XJ. They also pretty much had completely designed the ZJ as well. AMC had intended it to replace the XJ and be the new Cherokee. Then when Chrysler acquired AMC they decided to sell the ZJ as the Grand because the XJ was still a big seller. The ZJ pretty much started the "luxury" SUV market.
As far as dual fans, the shape of the radiator mandated it. It's wide and short. No good way to have just one fan on it.
Mechanical fans move a ton more air but are a bigger parasitic loss, reducing fuel efficiency. The engineers figured out that having the primary fan as mechanical gave the engine the cooling it needed for normal driving down the road. The electric fan gives the cooling system enough of a boost when you're sitting idling or working the engine hard. So they have a smaller mechanical fan with less parasitic loss than one big one. And they have an auxiliary helper fan when the smaller mechanical fan isn't quite enough.
It's actually a pretty smart way to balance the cooling needs with fuel efficiency desires.
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^ This. IMO, it's a packaging consideration. There's no way to cover enough surface area with a single fan on a radiator of this shape.
I agree.
I agree.
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But within the Wrangler division, there is tremendous resistance against going away from traditional body on frame. It may eventually happen but they aren't going down without a fight.
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Even before AMC became AMC, the companies that would form AMC were doing uni-frame designs. Once AMC bought Kaiser, it was only a matter of time before the uni-frame Jeeps started to come out.
But within the Wrangler division, there is tremendous resistance against going away from traditional body on frame. It may eventually happen but they aren't going down without a fight.
But within the Wrangler division, there is tremendous resistance against going away from traditional body on frame. It may eventually happen but they aren't going down without a fight.
Yeah, I remember a lot of considerations that were just unsettling - going away from solid axles, uni-frame Wranglers, ditching the stick shift.
I'm glad to see they haven't given in on any of the above (though my dreams of a diesel stick shift wrangler are far from reality.. )
I've often wondered why FCM hasn't considered a new XJ type Jeep (uni-frame with Wrangler engine/tranny and quality/durability)... I'd do it as an XJ2 model (since those new KL's currently shame the name "Cherokee")
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I don't have any overheating issues and I am not blaming the factory fan setup for causing overheating issues, I was just curious as to why Chrysler decided to do it that way. However I do find it hard to believe that you ran without the clutch fan and only the factory electric fan and didn't have any overheating problems.
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E fan relays are a pretty common failure on the WJ. Messed up part is that they put them in a nearly inaccessible location. Lol.
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I don't have any overheating issues and I am not blaming the factory fan setup for causing overheating issues, I was just curious as to why Chrysler decided to do it that way. However I do find it hard to believe that you ran without the clutch fan and only the factory electric fan and didn't have any overheating problems.
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That is correct. It is the shape of the radiator that dictates two fans. The mechanical pulls 2/3 of the air and electric the rest. It could have been done with two electric, but two mechanical would have been a challenge due to the engine moving under torque
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Yes, you do. You need it to draw anough air across your AC condenser coil or if the engine begins to overheat
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