wheels cambered???
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i think you mean caster. your caster should be between 6 and 8 degrees if i recall correctly. i dont know what that would put your pinion angle at.
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yes very well could be toe out it could also be a slightly seized caliper slide i would check that n apply never seize to slide last n not least could be cupped front tires try rotating them
I'm thinking one of the things you mentioned, or possibly alignment is off.
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Offset Ball joints from Fast Undercar. They come in 1/2* increments.
http://fastundercar.com/
If the camber is off a little it is exagerated with taller tires.
I had the same thing on mine. I installed 1* ball joint on the left and a 1/2*on the right side. Look at your aligment print out and find out how much your camber is from 0*.
This is a common issue with fixed solid straight axles since there is no adjustment for camber other than offset balljoints.
http://fastundercar.com/
If the camber is off a little it is exagerated with taller tires.
I had the same thing on mine. I installed 1* ball joint on the left and a 1/2*on the right side. Look at your aligment print out and find out how much your camber is from 0*.
This is a common issue with fixed solid straight axles since there is no adjustment for camber other than offset balljoints.
Last edited by AVjeeper; Feb 8, 2011 at 02:07 PM. Reason: mis-spelling
Could also have bent ball joints. Yes I have actually seen balljoints where they bend and do not break. I wish I would have took a picture of it when I pulled it off. Big tires supported by little ball joints can cause big problems
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no it is not. they are two different measurements.
pinion angle is measured at the pinion.
caster is measured at the knuckles.
here is an explination of caster....
Caster is the angle of the steering pivot, measured in degrees.
pinion angle is measured at the pinion.
caster is measured at the knuckles.
here is an explination of caster....
Caster is the angle of the steering pivot, measured in degrees.
Viewed from the side, the caster is the tilt of the steering axis. When the wheel is in front of the load the caster is positive. Three to five degrees of positive caster is the typical range of settings, with lower angles are being used on heavier vehicles to reduce steering effort.
If the caster is out of adjustment, it can cause problems in straight-line tracking. If the caster is different from side to side, the vehicle will pull to the side with the less positive caster. If the caster is equal but too negative, the steering will be light and the vehicle will wander and be difficult to keep in a straight line. If the caster is equal but too positive, the steering will be heavy and the steering wheel may kick when you hit a bump.
Caster has little or no effect on tire wear.
If the caster is out of adjustment, it can cause problems in straight-line tracking. If the caster is different from side to side, the vehicle will pull to the side with the less positive caster. If the caster is equal but too negative, the steering will be light and the vehicle will wander and be difficult to keep in a straight line. If the caster is equal but too positive, the steering will be heavy and the steering wheel may kick when you hit a bump.
Caster has little or no effect on tire wear.
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I just skimmed through the post real quick, I didnt see anything about actually taking it to a alg. shop. Most give free checks. It is well worth the money, or time to get it CHECKED so then you know exactly what is going on. No point of speculating when you can go to a shop and get it checked. Tape mesures are a thing of the past as far as alg. goes.
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not when you own a lifted cherokee! most alignment shops just adjust toe when doing an alignment anyways. that is super simple to do with a tape and get away. i have been doing it for years with no odd tire wear or handling. i use a tape and an angle finder.
here is a pic of how you measure caster angle
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:2,s:0
here is a pic of how you measure pinion angle
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...iw=779&bih=411
here is a pic of how you measure caster angle
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...1t:429,r:2,s:0
here is a pic of how you measure pinion angle
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...iw=779&bih=411
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Just want to let everyone know the axle tube was bent pass side of pumpkin that was the problem the whole time i bought all new steering and everything and decided to put axle in first than ball joint etc and just with axle alone wheels where almost perfect straight measured othe raxle and found the bend thank ya for all the wild anwsers
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