having no power issue backing firing / popping in intake
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having no power issue backing firing / popping in intake
Have 90 jeep Cherokee 17000 miles and running good up until a week ago drove it home one night every thing was good next day went to drive it. A lot of popping in the intake no power unless full throttle. once I do it levels out but still no power jerks a little and go to give throttle does the same thing I'm thinking fuel pump not sure !!! I'm stump change it out with a newer one out of a 92 ho to see if anything was different but no change .
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Mine did this a lot before the fuel pump finally died all the way. If you have a fuel pressure gauge, check to see if you have pressure when you increase throttle. You might have it at idle but if it drops off when you increase throttle, could be starved for fuel. I'm thinking it could be bad fuel pump and/or plugged fuel filter.
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YUP.
oneal916, have you performed any of my Tips on your 90 yet?
oneal916, have you performed any of my Tips on your 90 yet?
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Well I trouble shot a little and saw a leaking oring on a injector haven't been able to check fuel pressure yet going to just get a new pump fuel filter fuel regulator and orings and go buy a fuel pressure gauge and hopefully take care of my issue just have to wait till payday
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Well I trouble shot a little and saw a leaking oring on a injector haven't been able to check fuel pressure yet going to just get a new pump fuel filter fuel regulator and orings and go buy a fuel pressure gauge and hopefully take care of my issue just have to wait till payday
You may have a leaky injector itself.
They're notorious for that. Contact Programbo here on CF and get a set of 746 injectors from him.
In the meantime, borrow/rent a fuel pressure gauge from a parts store.
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Alright so checked the fuel pressure got 20 psi @ idle had a injector leak fixed that new fuel filter and newer pump from a parts jeep . yes i now new fuel pump better than used .no leaks on the fuel rail pressure whlent back up to 30 psi at idle. replaced map sensor still having back fire and popping issue . could it be timing? what is the spec for tdc or before fire cause I'm thinking timming is the issue
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It really makes allot of sense to look at Cruisers stuff on grounds. You can chase your own tail all day and get nowhere if your sensors and stuff aren't grounding well.
Btw when I had identical symptoms on my 90, it turned out that some wires in that gang that come off the injector harness to the lower sensors were grounding. They were miss routed and contacting the heat shield. Your engine coolant temp, Knock, and 02 sensors are down there. No harm in taking a real good look at those wires.
Btw when I had identical symptoms on my 90, it turned out that some wires in that gang that come off the injector harness to the lower sensors were grounding. They were miss routed and contacting the heat shield. Your engine coolant temp, Knock, and 02 sensors are down there. No harm in taking a real good look at those wires.
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It really makes allot of sense to look at Cruisers stuff on grounds. You can chase your own tail all day and get nowhere if your sensors and stuff aren't grounding well.
Btw when I had identical symptoms on my 90, it turned out that some wires in that gang that come off the injector harness to the lower sensors were grounding. They were miss routed and contacting the heat shield. Your engine coolant temp, Knock, and 02 sensors are down there. No harm in taking a real good look at those wires.
Btw when I had identical symptoms on my 90, it turned out that some wires in that gang that come off the injector harness to the lower sensors were grounding. They were miss routed and contacting the heat shield. Your engine coolant temp, Knock, and 02 sensors are down there. No harm in taking a real good look at those wires.
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OK I'll start chasing grounds tomorrow after work, and wires and see where it goes ,keep you guys updated thanks for the help so far
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The reason it goes when you floor it is because Renix goes into "open loop" past 70-80% throttle. It ignores most of the sensors except the MAP and the CPS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuppie "Not to be confused with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yippie." That's allot of Yup's Cruiser!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuppie "Not to be confused with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yippie." That's allot of Yup's Cruiser!
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X2-Just had another one go on the weekend. At some point, I'm going to replace them all but have had 2 out of six go and leak on the body. I kept pulling them out and re-doing the O-rings until one of the forum guys told me the stock injectors develop leaks themselves. The good part is I can get that fuel rail off really fast like a pit-pro! It's amazing that I haven't had a fire with gas hitting the hot manifold!
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X2-Just had another one go on the weekend. At some point, I'm going to replace them all but have had 2 out of six go and leak on the body. I kept pulling them out and re-doing the O-rings until one of the forum guys told me the stock injectors develop leaks themselves. The good part is I can get that fuel rail off really fast like a pit-pro! It's amazing that I haven't had a fire with gas hitting the hot manifold!
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