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Jeepster86 Dec 9, 2013 05:14 AM

Transfer case issues
 
Hello all again! First off I bought the jeep with an out of line transfer case linkage, I have adjusted it accordingly but when I shift into 4 hi everything seems ok untill I hit about 20 mph then I hear a gurgling (not grinding) sound coming from the t-case area that only increases with speed, also the steering understeer very badly when engaged in 4-hi. Now the very funny issue, after shifting back into 2wd the noise still continues, untill the vehicle is put into park or reverse, any help on were to start with this problem would be very much appreciated, Thanks

salad Dec 9, 2013 09:14 AM

You're using 4HI on pavement aren't you.

Don't do that. Very bad.

pdowty68 Dec 9, 2013 09:57 AM


Originally Posted by salad (Post 2700710)
You're using 4HI on pavement aren't you. Don't do that. Very bad.

if he's using 4wd on dry pavement, he should go straight to hell. It's not awd. There's a reason why "REAL 4WD" is better. Not like the stupid full time only transfer case in my sisters wj. Np231 is my favorite!

Jeepster86 Dec 9, 2013 12:30 PM

nope only using it on snowy or icy pavement

Jeepster86 Dec 9, 2013 05:34 PM

Now my next question would bad fluid cause something of this nature, or should I start by looking at something else in the driveline? I don't think the t-case belt is the issue or else I would still get the described symptoms in 2wd right? Just not real sure where to start with this one

salad Dec 9, 2013 05:50 PM

Yes is there any fluid in it? Should be to the bottom of the "fill" hole, nice and red, and not smell burnt.

How much snow and ice are we talking about here? Because those symptoms are classical of a Jeep with NP231 being operated on a surface without enough slippage.

Jeepster86 Dec 9, 2013 06:44 PM

Haven't actually checked the t-case fluid, but it's slippery enough that I just spin the rear tires in 2wd so I don't think the pavement being dry is the issue, though it is interesting that these symptoms are conducive with dry pavement driving though also correct me if I'm wrong but don't xj's have the 242 (2wd, 4-hi, N, 4-lo)

salad Dec 9, 2013 06:50 PM

NP231 shift pattern is 2H, 4H, N, 4L and marketed as "CommandTrac"
NP242 shift pattern is 2WD, 4WD Part Time, 4WD Full Time, N, 4Low and marketed as "SelecTrac".

2H, 4H Full Time, and neutral are the only ones suitable for pavement.

EDIT: whoooops

sycoglitch Dec 9, 2013 07:04 PM


Originally Posted by salad (Post 2701397)
NP231 shift pattern is 2H, 4H, N, 4L and marketed as "CommandTrac"
NP242 shift pattern is 2WD, 4WD Part Time, 4WD Full Time, N, 4Low and marketed as "SelecTrac".

2H, 4H FULL TIME, and neutral are the only ones suitable for pavement.

fify

OP,

You're saying under steer. How tight you taking turns. And how are you shifting and what are your RPMS like when driving. You sure you not in 4lo by accident. Does sound like you're binding

cruiser54 Dec 9, 2013 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Jeepster86 (Post 2701386)
Haven't actually checked the t-case fluid, but it's slippery enough that I just spin the rear tires in 2wd so I don't think the pavement being dry is the issue, though it is interesting that these symptoms are conducive with dry pavement driving though also correct me if I'm wrong but don't xj's have the 242 (2wd, 4-hi, N, 4-lo)

Haven't checked the fluid level or condition? Are you nuts? Who gives a **** about the shift pattern when there's a possibility the transfer case is dry or full of ****box fluid?

kgm Dec 9, 2013 07:46 PM

Check the transfer case fluid! It's probably the fastest fluid swap on the whole vehicle. Don't even bother checking, just put new in!

cruiser54 Dec 9, 2013 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by kgm (Post 2701490)
Check the transfer case fluid! It's probably the fastest fluid swap on the whole vehicle. Don't even bother checking, just put new in!

Nah. Just get an XJ and drive it like you stole it. You know for sure the PO did stellar maintenance on it, don't you ? The diffs are full of fresh and clean fluid, the trans was just serviced, transfer case is full, engine oil is clean with a quality filter. Go for it!!!!

belvedere Dec 9, 2013 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by cruiser54 (Post 2701437)
Haven't checked the fluid level or condition? Are you nuts? Who gives a **** about the shift pattern when there's a possibility the transfer case is dry or full of ****box fluid?

cruiser, I wish you'd stop sugar-coating it, and tell us how you really feel.;)

salad Dec 9, 2013 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by cruiser54 (Post 2701437)
...a possibility the transfer case is dry or full of ****box fluid?

You're right, it's very possible someone put Renix motor oil into a transfer case.

cruiser54 Dec 9, 2013 07:59 PM


Originally Posted by belvedere (Post 2701502)
cruiser, I wish you stop sugar-coating it, and tell us how you really feel.;)

Sorry. I'm kinda non-commital and wishy-washy.......

I get so tired of these guys acquiring a "new to them" vehicle and just driving it without spending any time checking it out. The, it's "Damn Jeep, ain't been nuttin' but trouble. Piece of ****!".


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