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Old 04-24-2017, 02:53 PM
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Tire opinions needed: here's situation. XJ2000 stock with Cooper H/T tires always ran fine but need replacing - worn down evenly to the replacement bumps. My needs have changed due recent move. Local light driving to dump and in Northeast winter weather as backup. Come late spring, I have a 400 mi Interstate roundtrip to really bad four miles of deep mud to my seasonal cabin in Selectrac 4L. That four miles on my right of way is a snowmobile trail from Dec to April so the ice and snow really get ground in and make my road a rutted rocky muddy mess when mud season arrives. ( see my photo) Ground clearance always an issue. So, now what tires do you think? My initial thought is go up a size to 235 75 15 Wranglers but worried about rubbing inside wheel wells and against chassis. Or stick with stock size Cooper H/T 225 75 15? The Wranglers do seem much taller and wide but look good on tread mud-throw. What do Forum thinkers advise given the mix of highway then off road mud? ? Thnx.
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I run 235/75-15 Grabber AT2's on and off road on stock suspension with no problems. Rarely in an off camber hard left turn situation my left tire will bump the lower control arm. Some XJ's came with 235's from the factory. But it sounds like you'll need an off-road max traction tire. If the mud is as bad as you say IMHO an AT tire may not cut it.

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x2 on the 235 75 15's.....I have the cheap wranglers and do not like them. I would not buy them again. the sidewall seems very thin.
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The wranglers are garbahe unless you stay on the street. Even then in wet conditions watch out
whats your budget? Khumo makes a nice at tire thats in the middle price wise. But its not good in mud. Really no all terrain is. Now is a mud tire worth it? Up to you
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Thanks so far. Didn't know the Wranglers had a bad rep...budget is medium, not cheap, not premium. Coopers were all-round multi-use compromise. Liked them fine but notsogood in deep mud.
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Thanks so far. Didn't know the Wranglers had a bad rep...budget is medium, not cheap, not premium. Coopers were all-round multi-use compromise. Liked them fine but notsogood in deep mud.
So deep mud? Were you able to get to where you were going with the tires you had on? Struggle mightliy?
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The wranglers are garbahe unless you stay on the street. Even then in wet conditions watch out
yes, they also suck in the rain on pavement.
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Hey, Martlor and everyone. I have a Huge struggle on my right of way and not confident of getting through with the Coopers which I like otherwise as a multipurpose compromise. (My old M38A1 had Goodyear ND six-ply 16" military tires which never gave a problem off-road but dangerous as hell on a rainy blacktop or wet highway.) A mechanic once suggested to me simply buy a good set of snow tires and leave on year- round given the minimal regular driving the XJ Cherokee does.... What do you think?
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A dedicated winter/snow tire is not a mud tire by a long shot. Even though you'll only need the design of a max traction off road tire a small percentage of the time other than running them year around the only other option is two sets of tires/wheels.
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you can fit 235/75/15 tires with very little rubbing with big meaty tires. and in your conditions personally id go with Bfgoodrich all terrain ta ko tires i hear very good reviews on those and you can get them in that size or if you want a very similar tire and i mean similar if you dont mind a weaker sidewall and like 200 dollars cheaper as opposed to 600+ dollars for the bf tires, try the general grabber at2 tires in that size theyre around 400 mounted and balanced. i hear theyre very good but to me they feel like a knock off lol but you dont sound like youre doing very heavy trail use so the thinner sidewall shouldnt be an issue. or now im hearing those cooper discoverer at3 is a decent tire as well tho i feel it wouldnt cut it for snow but here ill provide a link to a tire rack review and you can see which tires you would like: https://www.tirerack.com/tires/surve....jsp?type=ORAT

if you dont know the website much this should be the short sweet and to the point style click the tire of interest and you scroll down to the reviews and see what you like nifty little site i like it alot. anyways enough rambling this should be good enough lol.
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oh also a little more snooping around try 1010tires looks like a good site
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I had the bfgoodrich all terrains on my s10 pick up. I did not like them in the snow or mud. Got stuck with them - about an inch of snow mixed with mud on a dairy farm field with a slight incline. Snow packed in, would not self clean, no traction. I had to break off tree branches to get out. Also didn't like them in plain snow on the road.

I would go with goodyear dura-tracs, or something similar if those are more than you want to spend
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those were the old styles they say the new style eliminates that issue and they were quite good but that is the ta ko2 style that fixes that issue i never tried those yet
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those were the old styles they say the new style eliminates that issue and they were quite good but that is the ta ko2 style that fixes that issue i never tried those yet
working in a tire shop hearing customer reviews, and us employees doing our own "tests" i rate the top all terrains as bfg ko2, cooper at3, and general grabber at2. Even going to offroad shows and events i hear those 3 a lot.
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You dealing any of these? The more we run ours the more I'm impressed. It's WET around here right now and if the wife doesn't stop driving where I mow I'm going to jerk here keys.
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