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Old 03-18-2013, 06:34 PM
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Hi all this is my 3rd xj in the running and I've had a few little issues with this one and the major at the moment is that when turning at slow speeds and this only tends to happen on smooth surfaces, the front wheels feel as though they are rolling, this happens only when im turning full lock either left or right, another issue im having is the front diff seems 2 all ways be engage it feels like its still in 4x4 as when i take off all the power isn't transfered 2 the rear and none of my dash lights are coming on indicating my t/c is in gear.could it be a problem with my t/c? any advice would be great as im rather stumped on these issues here
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What do you mean by rolling? What year is it? My 97 doesn't have a transfer case light, could be stuck in 4wd, link could be messed up.
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Could be in 4wd or have a bad ujoint in one of the axle shafts.
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Sounds like you may have the 242 T-case.My '98 does the same thing from time to time & it has the 242.

When he says "rolling" I think he means "walking".

My dad had a CJ-7 that was full time 4x4 & it "walked" BAD in slow speed,tight turns.

This is just a guess.
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I have the NP242 as well and notice this when pulling into a parking spot.

Check your upper control arm bushings and tighten if necessary. This helped mine, but didnt get rid of it completely.
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by rolling i mean when i turn the front wheels fell like they want to fold, does that make more sence
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My jeeps a 1994 and has a NP242 trans and a dana 30 front diff with straight tube, are they semi floating or free floating diffs?

my bad if some questions sound dumb but im newish to the jeeping scene and just wanting to figure out the issues with my truck
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The front axle in any vehicle with a solid front axle is a full floating axle. So yes, youe d30 front axle is full floating.
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I have the NP242 as well and notice this when pulling into a parking spot.

Check your upper control arm bushings and tighten if necessary. This helped mine, but didnt get rid of it completely.

so its a general problem with the np242,whats the best way to fix it do u know,i'm considering giving my transfer case a overhaul
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I also have the same issue. Do you mean that even though you are still turning the tyres drag forward on the ground for maybe an inch? This could happen a few times depending on how long you are turning for. I have noticed that due to this the front tires wear considerably quicker than usual.

I have been told that my particular issue is caused by bad axle u joints.
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I also have the same issue. Do you mean that even though you are still turning the tyres drag forward on the ground for maybe an inch? This could happen a few times depending on how long you are turning for. I have noticed that due to this the front tires wear considerably quicker than usual.

I have been told that my particular issue is caused by bad axle u joints.
Yea i guess u could put it that way to, when u turn your wheel hard left or right, the front wheels feel like there wobbling and its only really noticeable when driving at crawling speed, have you replaced your axle u joints?
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Yes that sounds exactly right.

I haven't replaced mine yet, I was going to but my heater core has decided it wants to spray coolant everywhere so I need to fix that before I can drive it again. Or at least bypass it.

I did spray wd40 on them a while ago just to prove the theory. Not sure whether this was a bad idea or not but they didn't seem to bind anywhere nearly as badly for a day or two. Mine look like they have been there since it left the factory so I'm sure they'll need replacing anyway. Good luck with the fix whatever it turns out to be.
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I don't know what you mean by the tires are "wobbling", but to check the front u-joints do this: jack up the front axle, turn the wheels full lock and try to rotate the tires by hand. I had a problem with mine where the steering wheel would jerk back and forth a little as I straightened out from a turn. I was doing something else with the front end jacked up and found that the front u-joints were bad because when I was rotating the tires by hand at full lock they would bind and release every 180 degrees.
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Originally Posted by Northwoods Snowman
I don't know what you mean by the tires are "wobbling", but to check the front u-joints do this: jack up the front axle, turn the wheels full lock and try to rotate the tires by hand. I had a problem with mine where the steering wheel would jerk back and forth a little as I straightened out from a turn. I was doing something else with the front end jacked up and found that the front u-joints were bad because when I was rotating the tires by hand at full lock they would bind and release every 180 degrees.
This is how mine was tested. I couldn't remember exactly what was done so didn't post. You said it better than I could have done anyway :-)
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thank you guys for the help.i have now another issue.haha.the guy who i purchased the jeep off had hard wired the spot lights to the high beam switch, which has caused my headlight switch 2 burn out. i certainly have a decent project on my hands,would be so mean if parts here in New Zealand where cheap prices like you guys in the U.S.A


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