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HeepinTROUBLE 12-29-2012 07:11 PM

Oil pressure problem
 
Replacing my oil pump this weekend, got the oil pan unbolted and ready to take out but having troubles with Clarence. I removed my started for a little more room, but the pan is still hitting my front axel And my trAns, been working on it for awhile an no results..... Any ideas would be helpful

ZINGGG 12-29-2012 07:22 PM

Are you jacking it up from the unibody and letting the suspension droop?

CCKen 12-29-2012 08:10 PM

Let me slip in here for a minute...Why are you changing your oil pump? Just curious.

Kevin108 12-29-2012 09:54 PM

+1 jack it up from the front axle then put jack stands under the boxy sections underneath along the sides and let the axle droop down,

CCKen 12-30-2012 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin108 (Post 2214523)
+1 jack it up from the front axle then put jack stands under the boxy sections underneath along the sides and let the axle droop down,

Then what?

KD4315 12-30-2012 08:42 PM

Unless you want to unbolt the axle you have to jack up the front end a whole bunch. When the it's jacked up a scary amount you can barely slide the oil pan past the front axle.

KD4315 12-30-2012 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by CCKen (Post 2214327)
Let me slip in here for a minute...Why are you changing your oil pump? Just curious.

I would also like to know what led you to changing the oil pump.

Kevin108 12-30-2012 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by CCKen (Post 2216178)
Then what?

Be amazed when the pan doesn't hit the front axle?

belvedere 12-30-2012 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by HeepinTROUBLE (Post 2214251)
but having troubles with Clarence.

Who is Clarence? Can't you just ask him to leave?

ZINGGG 12-31-2012 01:12 AM


Originally Posted by belvedere (Post 2216260)

Who is Clarence? Can't you just ask him to leave?

:rofl:

The Rooster 12-31-2012 02:06 AM

welcome to Cf interesting 1st post..a few questions for you... if you do not mind...
what year is your Jeep?
What motor does it have? how many miles on it?
Why are you replacing your oil pump? They rarely go bad....

HeepinTROUBLE 12-31-2012 07:34 AM

It's a 2000.
Has about 125000.
My oil preasure light was coming on, I replaced my sending unit thinking that would solve my problem. Didn't. So I replaced oil pump yesterday, seeing that a lot of forums and people I talked to said it was the oil pump, so did that and tried replacing my main rear seal. Tryed and could get it so a buddy said it would be fine just replacing bottom of the seal. Got it all back together and the oil preasure light went off again last night and my truck has a weird noise as I speed up.... Any help would be appreciated thanks fellow jeepers

Deserthut 12-31-2012 08:46 AM

Exactly same issue here with my '00 XJ
 

Originally Posted by HeepinTROUBLE (Post 2216859)
It's a 2000.
Has about 125000.
My oil preasure light was coming on, I replaced my sending unit thinking that would solve my problem. Didn't. So I replaced oil pump yesterday, seeing that a lot of forums and people I talked to said it was the oil pump, so did that and tried replacing my main rear seal. Tryed and could get it so a buddy said it would be fine just replacing bottom of the seal. Got it all back together and the oil preasure light went off again last night and my truck has a weird noise as I speed up.... Any help would be appreciated thanks fellow jeepers

Should've read more ... there's no salvation ... rebuild or run till it blows
Mine has 165,XXX miles on it, and check gauge lights comes up after oil warms up, also dipstick level is way up while coolant disappears. My question is how can this engines run so strong still?

bigbadon 12-31-2012 10:17 AM


Originally Posted by Deserthut (Post 2216946)
Should've read more ... there's no salvation ... rebuild or run till it blows
Mine has 165,XXX miles on it, and check gauge lights comes up after oil warms up, also dipstick level is way up while coolant disappears. My question is how can this engines run so strong still?


Yup, oil pumps rarely fail. Most likely your engine is worn out. Low oil pressure is a condition and not a function.....higher oil pressure has no effect on protecting an engine. If you are still getting oil to the rockers you are getting it everywhere else. Mine has 101k miles with 4 psi and runs fine.

salad 12-31-2012 01:20 PM


Originally Posted by Deserthut (Post 2216946)
Should've read more ... there's no salvation ... rebuild or run till it blows
Mine has 165,XXX miles on it, and check gauge lights comes up after oil warms up, also dipstick level is way up while coolant disappears. My question is how can this engines run so strong still?

Cracked head lol. Nice. Don't worry, it will develop problems as the coolant continues to displace oil and cause more bearing damage.

CCKen 12-31-2012 02:10 PM

I love the "run-to-destruction" approach many forum members have.

Oh....Just run it until it fails/throws a rod through the crankcase, just get another bone yard motor to replace it. Or, simply rebuild it. On and on, ad nausium.

WTF.

The Rooster 12-31-2012 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by CCKen (Post 2217429)
I love the "run-to-destruction" approach many forum members have.

Oh....Just run it until it fails/throws a rod through the crankcase, just get another bone yard motor to replace it. Or, simply rebuild it. On and on, ad nausium.

WTF.

Sorry but you have to realize something with the years late 99-2001 have head problems... the heads crack and mixes the oil and coolant... which destories the bottom end of the engine... you can either run it till it blows or rebuild it... it is not something you can save once the damage is that bad... most of the time it is caught to late to do anything about it... :brickwall:

Kevin108 12-31-2012 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by CCKen (Post 2217429)
I love the "run-to-destruction" approach many forum members have.

Oh....Just run it until it fails/throws a rod through the crankcase, just get another bone yard motor to replace it. Or, simply rebuild it. On and on, ad nausium.

WTF.

If you actually use your Jeep, that's the only thought process that makes sense. We're not here doing antique restoration.

The Rooster 12-31-2012 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin108 (Post 2217965)
If you actually use your Jeep, that's the only thought process that makes sense. We're not here doing antique restoration.

Its starting to get to that point soon it will be happening... it is happening with the full-size waggy.. it will happen to xj's one day 2... antique restoration that is...

CCKen 12-31-2012 09:51 PM


Originally Posted by Kevin108 (Post 2217965)
If you actually use your Jeep, that's the only thought process that makes sense. We're not here doing antique restoration.

I've been "Using" and maintaining my Cherokee since 1999. If you were aware of your surroundings you'd realize that all XJ owners are engaged in antique restoration. Some XJ's driven and maintained by our members are actually antiques by definition.

CCKen 12-31-2012 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by The Rooster (Post 2217573)
Sorry but you have to realize something with the years late 99-2001 have head problems... the heads crack and mixes the oil and coolant... which destories the bottom end of the engine... you can either run it till it blows or rebuild it... it is not something you can save once the damage is that bad... most of the time it is caught to late to do anything about it... :brickwall:

1999 VIN S XJ's don't have head problems. :icon_cheesygrin:

The Rooster 01-01-2013 01:37 AM


Originally Posted by CCKen (Post 2218128)
1999 VIN S XJ's don't have head problems. :icon_cheesygrin:

I have seen it... exetremely rare but they do exist....:whistling2:

salad 01-01-2013 12:03 PM

I think you're confused between 1999 model year and 1999 build date. Some 2000 model years with the 0331 head were indeed assembled in 1999. However no 1999 model years have the 0331 head unless someone decided to put one on.

CCKen 01-01-2013 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by salad (Post 2218825)
I think you're confused between 1999 model year and 1999 build date. Some 2000 model years with the 0331 head were indeed assembled in 1999. However no 1999 model years have the 0331 head unless someone decided to put one on.

Indeed/Agreed.

I got fooled by looking at a XJ that I thought was a '98 because the sticker on the driver's door said manufactured 1998, and the old driver's mirror date trick - said 98. However, the VIN for the XJ was "X" in the 10th position which is a 1999 model year.

The 2000 XJ would have "Y" in the VIN 10th position for that model year, regardless of when the sticker said it was manufactured.

worf1235 01-01-2013 08:32 PM

Back to his original question. On a stock jeep the axil will not hang low enough to remove the oil pan. I had to remove the motor mount bolts and jack the engine up about 3 inches to clear the axle. If the oil pressure is dropping when warm then the bearings are gone and it is time for a rebuild.

Kevin108 01-02-2013 03:55 PM

Also, if just letting the axle droop isn't enough, you can use a bottle jack between the axle and body.

http://kevin108.com/files/images/for.../zjcoils04.jpg


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