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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 02:39 PM
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Just did the 703 swap in my '96. Now, it's smoking to beat the band and smells like unburnt fuel.

I did the ecu reset (lights on and off) but that didn't seem to help. Is this normal?

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 03:13 PM
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Also, it seems to be idling rough/too low.

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Magiksreal
Just did the 703 swap in my '96. Now, it's smoking to beat the band and smells like unburnt fuel.

I did the ecu reset (lights on and off) but that didn't seem to help. Is this normal?

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theres more than just turning your lights on and off,,did you do the whole thing?
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 04:28 PM
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Positive and negative terminals together and all. The smoke cleared up after a bit, now it's just reluctant to start and idles really low/poorly/shakes... Like a diesel motor.

Smells a little like raw gas in the exhaust too...

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 04:35 PM
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Maybe a leaking or bad injector. Were they new or used?
I put the same injectors in mine. So far it seems ok but it does run a little rich. I'm considering a new O2 sensor and see if it leans it out a bit.
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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 04:45 PM
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They were used. I'm hoping that it's not a bad injector. How do you test them after you pull them?

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 04:48 PM
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I didn't see any leaks. I really took my time and did a lot of prep/cleaning first too.

After shutting it off, it immediately starts again easier, but after sitting, it cranks forever before catching.

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Old Jul 9, 2011 | 11:54 PM
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I had similiar trouble when I installed my new motor. I took the fuel rail off to paint it and put new Orings on my injectors. When I reinstalled it I had put a nick in one of my fuel pressure regulator Orings, it took a looong time to crank and would idle like a diesel. Just a thought.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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Checked the fuel pressure at the rail, all aces, 39-40lbs.

So I pulled the 703's and re-installed the old yellow-tops after cleaning them within an inch of their lives.

As I put them in, I heard them all click into place. That's when it dawned on me that I forgot the light-weight oil on the o-rings prior to installation of the 703's.

Still, I'm going to rig up an injector test setup to make sure the injectors are fully functional before giving them a second chance.

I'm of the opinion that either I didn't have them seated properly, or one or two are fubar.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Magiksreal
Checked the fuel pressure at the rail, all aces, 39-40lbs.

So I pulled the 703's and re-installed the old yellow-tops after cleaning them within an inch of their lives.

As I put them in, I heard them all click into place. That's when it dawned on me that I forgot the light-weight oil on the o-rings prior to installation of the 703's.

Still, I'm going to rig up an injector test setup to make sure the injectors are fully functional before giving them a second chance.

I'm of the opinion that either I didn't have them seated properly, or one or two are fubar.

Thanks for the suggestions!

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I think a 96 should have 49psi at the rail.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 03:30 PM
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it dawned on me that I forgot the light-weight oil on the o-rings prior to installation of the 703's.

I'm of the opinion that either I didn't have them seated properly
This seems to be your issue. Without lubing them, the o-rings get a slight tear in them and the results of that tear are the issues you're having.
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Old Jul 10, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Well, they aren't torn, but testing will show whether one of 'em is bad or not.

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