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XJ?2010 03-18-2009 05:24 PM

muffler length
 
How long is the Stock muffler im looking into getting a new one.

parkerbabco 03-18-2009 05:27 PM

any auto parts store will tell you if you give them year make model

XJ?2010 03-18-2009 05:34 PM

Yeah i know i was just wondering cause i wanted to look into them while i was at the computer

mark's91-XJ 03-18-2009 05:39 PM

mine looks stock so the can is 18" long and with the conection pipes it 24" total:popcorn:

XJ?2010 03-18-2009 05:44 PM

thanks man

mike37 03-18-2009 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by mark's91-XJ (Post 143210)
mine looks stock so the can is 18" long and with the conection pipes it 24" total:popcorn:

that about right
but you need a 2-1/4" center inlet and offset outlet 2-1/4"

XJ?2010 03-18-2009 05:55 PM

yeah im thinking a thrush turbo

mike37 03-18-2009 06:01 PM


Originally Posted by XJ?2010 (Post 143224)
yeah im thinking a thrush turbo

that will work and they are cheep

XJ?2010 03-18-2009 06:05 PM

Yeah more people are running thrush welded as to the turbo which would sound better

funkle95xj 03-18-2009 07:55 PM

The thrush turbo has a very similar design to a Flowmaster 40 series and will give you a similar sound to that. The standard turbo muffler is a bit cheaper and when I had one I liked the sound alot, certainly a nice rumble for a $20 muffler! :thumbsup:

XJ?2010 03-18-2009 08:20 PM


Originally Posted by funkle95xj (Post 143282)
The thrush turbo has a very similar design to a Flowmaster 40 series and will give you a similar sound to that. The standard turbo muffler is a bit cheaper and when I had one I liked the sound alot, certainly a nice rumble for a $20 muffler! :thumbsup:

the standard meaning the welded?

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 04:27 PM

So i just bought a thrush turbo muffler along with new clamps, some type of exhaust joint sealent paste stuff (it was only a few bucks so i thought i would try it)

The bad this is that the muffler from pipe to pipe is only 18 inches so i bought a peice of tubing that i will just cut to size and that should do it.

In the next month i will be getting a new tailpipe. Im just doing it in stages.

I think i'll install it tomarrow night i'll be sure to get a sound clip when im done.

mark's91-XJ 03-19-2009 04:37 PM

cool lets hear that thing .i will be looking for one too here soon:popcorn:

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 04:45 PM

i know im pumped i would do it tonight but the Xj is still at my school shop for the brakes so i will have it tomarrow.

Quick question should i put the extention before or after the muffler. i heard that you want to put the muffler as far back as possible is this true?

a1racer 03-19-2009 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by XJ?2010 (Post 143674)

Quick question should i put the extention before or after the muffler. i heard that you want to put the muffler as far back as possible is this true?

i don't think it matters much but i would put the extension before the muffler unless it was going to cause some fit issues

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 05:06 PM

yeah thats what i was thinking

Fraser 03-19-2009 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by funkle95xj (Post 143282)
The thrush turbo has a very similar design to a Flowmaster 40 series

im afraid your wrong on that, the turbo mufflers use baffles
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

the thrush 'welded' is the one familiar to the flowmaster, no baffles

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3D2%26hl%3Den

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 05:41 PM

Yes you are correct on the way they are built. however the way the sound is different the thrush welded is a cleaner tone. I didnt want a welded cause if you get them wet when there hot the welds holding the baffles break and the muffler is trashed.

Fraser 03-19-2009 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by XJ?2010 (Post 143717)
Yes you are correct on the way they are built. however the way the sound is different the thrush welded is a cleaner tone. I didnt want a welded cause if you get them wet when there hot the welds holding the baffles break and the muffler is trashed.

wat? the welded mufflers dont come apart. if they did, i dont think flowmaster would sell that many mufflers

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 06:08 PM

Im not saying flowmasters come apart im saying the thrush ones do. Flowmaster and magnaflow are really nice mufflers but they cost more as to the $20 thrush the quality is not the same

Fraser 03-19-2009 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by XJ?2010 (Post 143738)
Im not saying flowmasters come apart im saying the thrush ones do. Flowmaster and magnaflow are really nice mufflers but they cost more as to the $20 thrush the quality is not the same

the $20 thrush turbo isnt the same as a flowmaster, the thrush one that is similar to the flowmaster runs around ~$45-50

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 06:13 PM

the trush welded runs $20 bucks and the flowmaster 40 is around $80

Fraser 03-19-2009 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by XJ?2010 (Post 143742)
the trush welded runs $20 bucks and the flowmaster 40 is around $80

$30- http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

the $20 is the turbo, that has the baffles in it. the 'welded' is a chambered type muffler, no baffles

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 07:17 PM

Im sorry i mispoke you are right it is a chambered muffler however the walls are welded onto the outer skin then the skin is rolled over and sealed. this is the way the flowmaster 40 and thrush welded mufflers are made. However the tubro does not have this so i dont have to worry about the chamber walls coming apart

Fraser 03-19-2009 08:00 PM


Originally Posted by XJ?2010 (Post 143774)
Im sorry i mispoke you are right it is a chambered muffler however the walls are welded onto the outer skin then the skin is rolled over and sealed. this is the way the flowmaster 40 and thrush welded mufflers are made. However the tubro does not have this so i dont have to worry about the chamber walls coming apart

:thumbsup:

XJ?2010 03-19-2009 09:54 PM

hahah there we go

XJ?2010 03-20-2009 10:04 PM

Well i installed it tonight and im still kinda on the fence about it. Its a rumble over stock and you def. hear the difference. But its not quite as loud as i wanted it to be. I will get pics and a sound clip tomarrow

ShortyzKustomz 03-21-2009 01:42 AM

It wont be, I got my Jeep thinking it sounded stock come to find out it had a glasspack on it, The stock piping and especially the stock cat kills sound on these. My Friends was cut off right after the stock cat and was still quiet

XJ?2010 03-21-2009 11:39 AM

I ran it out of the cat before putting the new muffler on and it was loud as hell and it sounded terrible. The new muffler is a little louder but it sounds better.

I will make a new thread with the sound clip and pics in a few mins.

funkle95xj 03-21-2009 04:43 PM


Originally Posted by Fraser (Post 143687)
the thrush 'welded' is the one familiar to the flowmaster, no baffles

Damn, I totally misspoke. I meant to say the Welded Thrush was similar to the Flowmaster. And the standard turbo was the cheap one... I'm a lame-o, my bad.

ktmracer419 03-21-2009 04:56 PM

i run the cheapest 13" muffler the store has.

they do not last very long. they generally pull apart at the seams.

i weld up the entire underside myself, each seam, and stitch weld the seams on top and it gives them a little more life.

XJ?2010 03-21-2009 09:38 PM

Yeah idk im not happy with this one spunds pretty stock maybe a new tail pipe will help

88fadedglory 03-21-2009 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by XJ?2010 (Post 143674)
i know im pumped i would do it tonight but the Xj is still at my school shop for the brakes so i will have it tomarrow.

Quick question should i put the extention before or after the muffler. i heard that you want to put the muffler as far back as possible is this true?

Where are you located? If there are no vehicle inspections in your state, check this idea out:

I'm in south central CO where there is no vehicle inspections, unless they still do emissions tests along the front range of the Rockies.

I'm running a CherryBomb Turbo Muffler on AutoZone replacement exhaust pipe and tailpipe, no cat (replaced with tubing). The AZ tailpipe is 2 1/4", the same as the downpipe, and that reduces restriction a little more.

But how does it sound? Well, some of the local ricer drivers with huge fart cans on their cars are jealous, but it's not loud in the XJ at all. At 70 mph in 4th or 5th, you can have a normal conversation.

As for position, a rearward mounting might give a tiny bit more low RPM torque (you've still got a couple sharp turns, flattened areas for clearance, etc.), but it's not gonna help much.

Budd

XJ?2010 03-22-2009 07:00 PM

yeah im gonna get a 2.5" tail pipe bent soon but until then i'll roll like this here are some pics of it installed. with all the reducers and exhaust glue crap. sorry no sound clip the jeep doesnt run right now.

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00902.jpg
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00903.jpg
It took some purswading to get the old muffler off stupid michigan rust.
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00904.jpg
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00905.jpg
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00906.jpg
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00907.jpg
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00908.jpg
http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/l...0/DSC00909.jpg


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