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Looking to pull the trigger on a 2001 xj
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I currently have a 89 jeep Cherokee. It's been a great jeep I just want something a little newer to carry my family around in. I found a white 2001 jeep Cherokee 4x4 for only $3500 148,000 miles Power doors, locks, ect.
My main concern is the head cracking. I have done some research some people said they fixed the head problem in 2000 some say they didn't. What are the chances my head could crack? Also I see rust on the wheels. This is no biggie as I have a rough country 3" lift and Jk wheels I was going to put on my 89 but I'm now saving for my new jeep. If there is this much much rust on the wheels does that mean everything underneath is rusted to? I have not had a chance to go look at the jeep as it's 6 hours away, I was going to pay a mechanic to take a look at it before I make the drive up to see it my self. I have the vin is possible to tell what axle it has? Any thoughts or comments would be nice. |
The 2000 and 2001 have the bad heads.
Some seem to do just fine. As long as its never been ran hot. It will have a d30 front and a Chrysler 8.25 rear with 29 spline axles. |
If you like it. Buy it. If the head cracks... replace it.
It's not a big deal. You can get a remanufactured head for a fair price and swap it in a short weekend. |
No guarantee the head will crack, some don't, some do, it's a chance you take. The 0331 head was used on late '99-'01 XJs, as far as I know it was never "fixed". In '02 the Grand Cherokee switched to the 0331 "TUPY" head which was a different casting that resolved the cracking between cylinder 3 and 4 (I think that's where they cracked?). As far as the rust on the wheels, probably not a big deal but it's easy enough to check other rust-prone areas like the rockers for signs of rot. I can't believe how cheap XJs are outside California... this would be at least $6K here.
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I just emailed jeep to get a build sheet this is what I got back. I was surprised I got a response in 10 minutes.
Vehicle Description JEEP CHEROKEE SPORT 4X4 SPORT UTILITY 4-DR Model Year 2001 Body Model XJ J H 74 Color PW1- Stone White Clear Coat ISD 12/06/2000 Sales Code Description *M5 Cloth High-Back Bucket Seats -AZ Agate AA4 Sport Value Group ADAP Light Group APAS Monotone Paint AWHP Power Equipment Group AWS Smoker's Group A20P 4.0L Engine(ERH)/4Sp Auto Trans(DGS BASS 124 Amp Alternator BCDS 500 Amp Maintenance Free Battery BGAS Power Front Disc/Rear Drum Brakes CADP High Back Bucket Seats CBWS Highline Door Trim Panel CDBS Reclining Front Seats CFMS Rear Folding Seat CF4S Child Seat Upper Tether Anchorages CGGS Traveling Inboard Seat Belt Buckle CGWS Next Generation Front Air Bags** CKAS Carpets - Floor and Cargo Area CKNS Cargo Compartment Carpet CKTS Cargo Tie Down Loops CKXS Midgate Box Access CLEP Front & Rear Floor Mats CSAS Spare Tire Cover CSRS Passenger Assist Handles CSSS Illuminated Rear Assist Handles CUFS Full Length Floor Console CUXP Front & Rear Ash Trays DGBS All 4-Speed Automatic Transmissions DGS 4-Speed Automatic AW4 Transmission DHAP Lock-Up Torque Converter DHNS Command-Trac Part Time 4WD System DHSP Floor Mount Automatic Shift Lever DJKS Dana 30/181MM Front Axle DMDP 3.55 Rear Axle Ratio DRAS Corporate 8.25 Rear Axle EAAC All Engines ERH 4.0L I6 Power Tech Engine GAL Deep Tint Sunscreen Glass GBBS Tinted Windshield Glass GCBS Front Door Tinted Glass GEEP Deep Tint Sunscreen Liftgate Glass GFAS Rear Window Defroster GNAS Rear View Day/Night Mirror GNCP Sun Visors w/Illum Vanity Mirrors GTZP Manual Remote Mirrors GVBC All Vehicles W/Power Mirrors GXMP Remote Keyless Entry HAAP Air Conditioning HGDS Deluxe Insulation Group I24S Route 24 - UP, Rolla, CO JAYS Instrument Cluster w/Tach JBFS Instrument Panel Black Bezel JCDS 100 MPH Primary Speedometer JHAS Var Intermittent Windshield Wipers JHBP Rear Window Wiper/Washer JJAP Cigar Lighter JJBS Dual Note Electric Horns JJJS 12V Auxiliary Power Outlet JPAP Power Windows JPBP Power Locks KDPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING COLOR KGPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KRPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING COLOR KTPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KVPS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR KYPP STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR K2ZS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR K3NS STRIPE/BADGE/MOLDING/COLOR LAJS Headlamps On Warning Chimes LBBP Courtesy Lamps LCDP Map/Dome Reading Lamps LDAP Underhood Lamp LDBP Cargo Compartment Lamp LHDP Headlamp Off Time Delay LMAS Halogen Headlamps LPSS CHMSL Lamp MBKS Front Brake Duct Bezels MBLS Body Color Front Bumper MBSS Carbon Front Splitter MBTS Body Color Rear Bumper MCAS Rear Body Color Applique MDAP Front License Plate Bracket MFBS Body Color Headlamp Bezels MFKS Body Color Grille MHAS Black Windshield Moldings MMCS Rear Qtr Solid Window Insert MMGS Belt Moldings MMKS Hi Black Gloss/Black Mirror Molding MNAS Black Door Handles MNNS Body Color License Plate Brow MWGP Roof Rack NAS 50 State Emissions NBHP High Altitude Emissions Tracking NBKS EVAP Control System NBVP Low Emission Vehicle (LEV) NFAS 20 Gallon Fuel Tank NHM Speed Control PW1 Stone White Clear Coat QW1S Stone White C/C RAAC All Radio Equipped Vehicles RASS AM/FM Cassette Radio RCRP 4 Speakers RDDS Fixed Long Mast Antenna SBAS Power Rack and Pinion Steering SCGP Leather Wrapped Steering Wheel SDAS Normal Duty Suspension SHAS Front Stabilizer Bar SHCS Front and Rear Stabilizer Bars SUAP Tilt Steering Column TBCS Compact Spare Tire TBLS Inside Mounted Spare Tire TRLS P225/75R15 Wrangler RT/S AT Tires TZAP Goodyear Brand Tires WJ5S 15X7.0 Full-Face Steel Wheels WLYC All Steel Wheels XCYS Delete Remote Start System XJFS Tethered Fuel Filler Cap XPFS Protective Coating and Remover YAAS Build To U.S. Mkt. Specifications |
if it were me i would buy it knowing somewhere down the road you will replace the head
some never crack....some do if he is at 3500...see if 3k will buy it. 3250 maybe? the money saved will buy you (almost) a new head....there ya go all set just make sure when you order a new one...you get the "tupy" head... |
Originally Posted by Kaktus
I currently have a 89 jeep Cherokee. It's been a great jeep I just want something a little newer to carry my family around in. I found a white 2001 jeep Cherokee 4x4 for only $3500 148,000 miles Power doors, locks, ect.
My main concern is the head cracking. I have done some research some people said they fixed the head problem in 2000 some say they didn't. What are the chances my head could crack? Also I see rust on the wheels. This is no biggie as I have a rough country 3" lift and Jk wheels I was going to put on my 89 but I'm now saving for my new jeep. If there is this much much rust on the wheels does that mean everything underneath is rusted to? I have not had a chance to go look at the jeep as it's 6 hours away, I was going to pay a mechanic to take a look at it before I make the drive up to see it my self. I have the vin is possible to tell what axle it has? Any thoughts or comments would be nice. |
I probably am going to pull the trigger on this once it checks out with a mechanic. I'm just going to keep in mind I may need to replace the head some day. "or maybe with a little luck the heads already been changed :)" wishful thinking I guess. This jeep is actually at a car lot and comes with a 3000 mile warranty. Plus its $1500 dollars less than the competition.
Thanks for the input everyone. |
Originally Posted by Kaktus
I probably am going to pull the trigger on this once it checks out with a mechanic. I'm just going to keep in mind I may need to replace the head some day. "or maybe with a little luck the heads already been changed :)" wishful thinking I guess. This jeep is actually at a car lot and comes with a 3000 mile warranty. Plus its $1500 dollars less than the competition.
Thanks for the input everyone. |
Looks like the front bumper is tweaked
Look at the gap between the front bumper and the header panel. Maybe he just bumped something...but worth looking into. Id say 3k is a decent price if everything checks out. |
whats the email address to jeep to get the build sheet?
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Originally Posted by Xj88
(Post 2250501)
Looks like the front bumper is tweaked
Look at the gap between the front bumper and the header panel. Maybe he just bumped something...but worth looking into. Id say 3k is a decent price if everything checks out. I noticed the bumper does look tweaked like its pulled out. Hopefully that's all that's wrong with it, and no front other front end damage. If so gives me a excuse to upgrade to a new front bumper :thumbsup: As far getting the build sheets I used this link:http://www.jeep.com/wccsapp/universa...ull&category=U |
Originally Posted by BIGJON396
(Post 2250504)
whats the email address to jeep to get the build sheet?
^^ He beat me to it |
I agree with the bumper tweaked part, I'm on my phone but it does look like its in a decent condition. Definatly heavily used for an 01 though, ask if those are mostly highway miles or what, any long road trips etc. Ask for service records, chances are it has something like an oil change or whatever non mechanic people do Haha. Figure that the KBB value on an 01 xj in pristine condition is around 4500-5000, it deteriorates the more miles and stuff it has, like tweaks in the bumper, rusty wheels, faulty wiring you get the idea. Only feel you need to pay as much as you want for the vehicle, often times people overprice their stuff and leave out a major issue. Like a head crack, check the coolant level, exhaust, underbelly, 3500 is a lot of money this thing better be spotless. My bro got a 2000 (01 body style) for 1200 because it ran like ****. Had a broke lifter and a cracked head, bam 2000$ for a pristine xj. There are values out there, shop around and you'll find one that matches your price.
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i was looking at your build sheet and noticed that it specifies a dana 30 181mm front axle. I requested a build sheet for my 98 sport and it specifies that mine is a 230mm but does not state what kind it is. Anyone familer with this?
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