Ignition Switch Short or Water?
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Ignition Switch Short or Water?
Perhaps I'm confused about how electricity works, but after hooking up a DMM to my battery posts my truck reads ~15.5 off and ~3.5 with accessories on. Seems to me the voltage should stay the same but current draw would be vastly different. Issue started when I got in my truck and turned the key, all accessories worked fine, but nothing happened when turning all the way to ignition.
Symptoms: Turn key, nothing, starter won't turn over or click. Replaced starter, starter would click but not turn over, accessories work intermittently and with low power.
Troubleshooting: Switched relays. Replaced starter. Ran jumper cable from + battery to B+ post on starter, clicks but no turn over. Bridged B+ and S post with screwdriver, nothing, small sparks. Measured voltage at starter equals voltage at battery posts with accessories on (~3.5V).
While checking fuses, I noticed water on the bottom of the interior fuse box, though all fuses checked out good. I think it is seeping through the e-brake cable grommet as water runs down the engine side firewall. Therefore, I am guessing my only two remaining issues could be a short in the ignition switch or a short in my fuse box? It's a manual so no NSS.
Thanks,
Chris
Symptoms: Turn key, nothing, starter won't turn over or click. Replaced starter, starter would click but not turn over, accessories work intermittently and with low power.
Troubleshooting: Switched relays. Replaced starter. Ran jumper cable from + battery to B+ post on starter, clicks but no turn over. Bridged B+ and S post with screwdriver, nothing, small sparks. Measured voltage at starter equals voltage at battery posts with accessories on (~3.5V).
While checking fuses, I noticed water on the bottom of the interior fuse box, though all fuses checked out good. I think it is seeping through the e-brake cable grommet as water runs down the engine side firewall. Therefore, I am guessing my only two remaining issues could be a short in the ignition switch or a short in my fuse box? It's a manual so no NSS.
Thanks,
Chris
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Perhaps I'm confused about how electricity works, but after hooking up a DMM to my battery posts my truck reads ~15.5 off and ~3.5 with accessories on. Seems to me the voltage should stay the same but current draw would be vastly different. Issue started when I got in my truck and turned the key, all accessories worked fine, but nothing happened when turning all the way to ignition.
Symptoms: Turn key, nothing, starter won't turn over or click. Replaced starter, starter would click but not turn over, accessories work intermittently and with low power.
Troubleshooting: Switched relays. Replaced starter. Ran jumper cable from + battery to B+ post on starter, clicks but no turn over. Bridged B+ and S post with screwdriver, nothing, small sparks. Measured voltage at starter equals voltage at battery posts with accessories on (~3.5V).
While checking fuses, I noticed water on the bottom of the interior fuse box, though all fuses checked out good. I think it is seeping through the e-brake cable grommet as water runs down the engine side firewall. Therefore, I am guessing my only two remaining issues could be a short in the ignition switch or a short in my fuse box? It's a manual so no NSS.
Thanks,
Chris
Symptoms: Turn key, nothing, starter won't turn over or click. Replaced starter, starter would click but not turn over, accessories work intermittently and with low power.
Troubleshooting: Switched relays. Replaced starter. Ran jumper cable from + battery to B+ post on starter, clicks but no turn over. Bridged B+ and S post with screwdriver, nothing, small sparks. Measured voltage at starter equals voltage at battery posts with accessories on (~3.5V).
While checking fuses, I noticed water on the bottom of the interior fuse box, though all fuses checked out good. I think it is seeping through the e-brake cable grommet as water runs down the engine side firewall. Therefore, I am guessing my only two remaining issues could be a short in the ignition switch or a short in my fuse box? It's a manual so no NSS.
Thanks,
Chris
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Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply, and for mentioning the back of the fuse panel beneath the clutch master. I never would have thought to look at that but it makes sense with the way water would flow over the drip rails. I ran a couple beads of RTV to hopefully redirect water in the future.
I also determined that there was a hairline crack in the top of one of my terminal clamps. I didn't notice it at first when I cleaned it during troubleshooting but found that every time I would turn the key, power would cut out, and I could bridge the crack with a screwdriver and power would return to the vehicle. Couldn't carry enough amperage to start, so in essence it was acting like a capacitor. And here I thought electricity followed the path of least resistance.
I also determined that there was a hairline crack in the top of one of my terminal clamps. I didn't notice it at first when I cleaned it during troubleshooting but found that every time I would turn the key, power would cut out, and I could bridge the crack with a screwdriver and power would return to the vehicle. Couldn't carry enough amperage to start, so in essence it was acting like a capacitor. And here I thought electricity followed the path of least resistance.
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