High oil PSI at startup
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High oil PSI at startup
I recently did a full head and motor swap on my 91 XJ.
Everything was cleaned, machined and checked out by one of the top shops in the country for this kind of work.
Prior to swap I had no oil pressure issues.
Now, even after completing the re-seating and break in procedures I am having high oil pressure at start up.
If she has sat over night, even if its warm, she starts at 70-80 and comes down to normal operating pressure over the course of 15 minutes of idling.
Once down to normal, no issues are encountered while driving and if I turn her off and don't let her set longer than an hour or so she starts up at normal pressure.
Where should I begin with trying to diagnose this? Sensor?
Thanks in advance!
Everything was cleaned, machined and checked out by one of the top shops in the country for this kind of work.
Prior to swap I had no oil pressure issues.
Now, even after completing the re-seating and break in procedures I am having high oil pressure at start up.
If she has sat over night, even if its warm, she starts at 70-80 and comes down to normal operating pressure over the course of 15 minutes of idling.
Once down to normal, no issues are encountered while driving and if I turn her off and don't let her set longer than an hour or so she starts up at normal pressure.
Where should I begin with trying to diagnose this? Sensor?
Thanks in advance!
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The primary suspect here is the oil pressure sending unit, located directly above the oil filter.
If your XJ were at a shop, they would remove the sending unit and temporarily install a "mechanical oil pressure gauge" where the sending unit resides. Doing that will give you an oil pressure reading you can believe.
If oil pressure with the mechanical sending unit is acceptable, then the oil pressure sending unit needs to be replaced. Preferably with a MOPAR unit purchased directly from Jeep. The MOPAR sending unit will give you the best accuracy/reliability/mating with your factory gauge.
Good luck and keeep us updated!
If your XJ were at a shop, they would remove the sending unit and temporarily install a "mechanical oil pressure gauge" where the sending unit resides. Doing that will give you an oil pressure reading you can believe.
If oil pressure with the mechanical sending unit is acceptable, then the oil pressure sending unit needs to be replaced. Preferably with a MOPAR unit purchased directly from Jeep. The MOPAR sending unit will give you the best accuracy/reliability/mating with your factory gauge.
Good luck and keeep us updated!
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Also has a follow-up I'm out here ****ing around and realized I didn't mention that it is a 95 engine that we put in but we still have the original 91 oil pressure sending unit mounted.
Could that crossover be causing issues?
Could that crossover be causing issues?
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Thanks man! Ill make some calls to shops tomorrow!
The primary suspect here is the oil pressure sending unit, located directly above the oil filter.
If your XJ were at a shop, they would remove the sending unit and temporarily install a "mechanical oil pressure gauge" where the sending unit resides. Doing that will give you an oil pressure reading you can believe.
If oil pressure with the mechanical sending unit is acceptable, then the oil pressure sending unit needs to be replaced. Preferably with a MOPAR unit purchased directly from Jeep. The MOPAR sending unit will give you the best accuracy/reliability/mating with your factory gauge.
Good luck and keeep us updated!
If your XJ were at a shop, they would remove the sending unit and temporarily install a "mechanical oil pressure gauge" where the sending unit resides. Doing that will give you an oil pressure reading you can believe.
If oil pressure with the mechanical sending unit is acceptable, then the oil pressure sending unit needs to be replaced. Preferably with a MOPAR unit purchased directly from Jeep. The MOPAR sending unit will give you the best accuracy/reliability/mating with your factory gauge.
Good luck and keeep us updated!
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I got a Bosch for under $20 at Pep Boys. It took all of 10 minutes to connect it, set the gauge on the cowling where I could see it, fire up the engine, get a reading, and put back the old sending unit.
I keep the Bosch around strictly as a test unit.
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I was told on another Forum to unplug the sending unit and see if the pressure drops to zero while the engine is on, when I did that the pressure went even higher past 80.
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You could have a wiring problem to the sending unit. The mechanical gauge will tell the story, and you'll know where to go from there.
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definitely check any oil pressure concern with a mechanical gauge asap.
what weight oil and what’s the ambient temp? ive owned several vehicles that made 70+ psi cold and 35 warm at idle. it’s not terribly out of the norm. what kind of oil pump?
i can see a fresh rebuild doing that. my 245k motor still makes 60/30 on stock everything with 5w30 dino oil in it.
what weight oil and what’s the ambient temp? ive owned several vehicles that made 70+ psi cold and 35 warm at idle. it’s not terribly out of the norm. what kind of oil pump?
i can see a fresh rebuild doing that. my 245k motor still makes 60/30 on stock everything with 5w30 dino oil in it.
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Someone can/will correct me here, but, I believe oil pressure is the result of tolerances in the motor (not the pump like some people think). Looser tolerances, lower pressure, tighter tolerances, higher pressure. With that in mind, it seems to me that a freshly rebuilt motor would have tighter tolerances, and thus higher starting oil pressure. Once it warms up to operating temperature and the oil thins a bit, then it’d normalize.
That's my thinking on it, I could be wrong though. Of course check with a mechanical gauge. And make sure you’re using the right viscosity oil. And the right amount.
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That's my thinking on it, I could be wrong though. Of course check with a mechanical gauge. And make sure you’re using the right viscosity oil. And the right amount.
-T.
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