Factory Mopar Crank Pos Sensor
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Year: 1999
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So I just got an email back from mopar parts overstock saying "CHRYSLER HAS SUPERSEDED THE COST OF THIS PART TO $98.45".
I paid 60.15 plus 19.95 shipping for the cps. Anyone delt with this dealer before? This ticks me off and I feel they should honor their price.
Are there any other dealers with this part?
I paid 60.15 plus 19.95 shipping for the cps. Anyone delt with this dealer before? This ticks me off and I feel they should honor their price.
Are there any other dealers with this part?
I would rather pay and be done with it for probably the rest of the life of my Jeep than have to keep dealing with the same issue and maybe get stuck somewhere.
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Just so you know... The BBB is a private corporation, endorsements and approval ratings can be purchased. They are just as crooked as the ones you are complaining against. In fact... One of the BBB board members might even also own stock in or sit on the board of the other company. It's a scam... lol
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I sent an email back saying they need to honor their price. Shortly after I got this, "HELLO I AM SORRY CHRYSLER UPDATED THE COST OF THE PART AND THE WEB SITE DID NOT CATCH UP YET. I WILL CANCEL AND REFUND YOUR ACCOUNT".
I will take my refund and go elsewhere I guess. Never seen this happen with an online retailer.
I will take my refund and go elsewhere I guess. Never seen this happen with an online retailer.
The respectable thing for Moparpartsoverstock to do would be to honor the website price, for any orders placed, UNTIL the website is updated. Once its updated, then charge the new price. But, sadly, its not my business to run. What gets me more than the price hike is you already paid, but they wont even honor that. And the shipping charge of 19.95 IS crazy. Something of that size can be shipped safely and securely for less than 10. In an unmarked box. But it is what it is.
I have not found that particular part number, or any other part number associated with it, anywhere else online. Not even thru Rockauto, unless you settle for aftermarket. Sometimes you can use Rockautos 'Part Number Search' and type in the manufacturers part number, etc., and find what youre after. Some parts dont always show up using the 'Part Catalog' selections.
With that said, could a 91-92 crank sensor and vehicle harness be retrofitted to use a newer style connector and pin configuration, and still work properly? Or is the sensor itself a completely different animal? Just curious. Ive never compared the two.
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Contents of a CPS
All a CPS is on the XJ is a magnet encased in a plastic housing that sends an inductive electrical pulse signal to the PCM computer. A magnet is the same whether made in China, Mexico or the USA. The original that came out of my 1996 XJ looked pretty much like the one that went in. I find it amusing folks are complaining about the cost whether sixty bucks plus twenty shipping or ninety bucks plus twenty shipping for a device that is essentially a magnet with a pigtail plug and are willing to spend that much for a part that comes from who knows where. Chrysler doesn't make the things anymore and hasn't for at least a decade if not longer. There are no OEM parts like that unless you find a dealer that has one on a shelf in the parts department that was overlooked years ago when doing inventory so good luck with that. Hmmm, eighty bucks or fifteen bucks. I'll take a chance and do the fifteen, buy a second as a spare and I still come out ahead. I have a feeling I won't be replacing my CPS for quite a while.
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It's your prerogative--do what you want. It's pretty well established around here that OEM sensors have a track record of working more reliably and outlasting those of third-party manufacturers*. That is why many of us buy them, and why we suggest them to others. CPS's go bad, right? ...even though they're just a magnet! (hall effect sensor, actually) If you don't think one simple sensor can go bad quicker than another based upon manufacturing tolerances, you're fooling yourself.
*By third-party manufacturer, I mean any manufacturer that is not supplying Mopar with their parts. I'm pretty sure Chrysler themselves never made CPS's by the way... If you can find out which one makes them, by all means buy theirs.
*By third-party manufacturer, I mean any manufacturer that is not supplying Mopar with their parts. I'm pretty sure Chrysler themselves never made CPS's by the way... If you can find out which one makes them, by all means buy theirs.
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I was expecting to pay 100 at the dealer. So when I saw 60 I thought it wasn't a bad deal, even after the 20 dollar shipping. Heck, I would have paid the 98 if that is what it was advertised as. But I got pissed when they sent me an email asking for more money. That to me seems very shady. I will end up going elsewhere. I would have liked to purchase a mopar part because that is what the majority here recommends, but it seems they are not readily available. I will probably end up buying one from rock auto.
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Not to get argumentative with you but....it is 2017. The youngest XJ is now sixteen years old, most far older than that and probably most have well over 100k miles on them unless you have that barn find. There are no new manufacture OEM CPS's for XJ's now, they are all aftermarket third party. Even when Chrysler stocked them they came from a third party manufacturer and since the XJ is a curious mixture of SAE and Metric, chances are the CPS came from an outside the USA manufacturer even back then. I just checked with Omix ADA and their XJ CPS for my 96 XJ is $128.99 plus shipping. There is no note as to where it's made. Crown has two, one for $50 and one for $43 both with free shipping. No note as to where they are made. So tell me which one is the "OEM" quality one?
And show me where on this site CPS stats are recorded. Also, most of our XJ's are second hand with few that are original owner. How does one know their CPS is original to the vehicle to begin with? Your statement that OEM CPS's last longer is really an absurd claim, there are none. It's not like they have a Chrysler logo stamped on them or even another manufacturer's logo on them to be able to determine when it was installed. When my year old fifteen dollar CPS takes a dump I'll post it here and I'll eat it after installing my spare.
And show me where on this site CPS stats are recorded. Also, most of our XJ's are second hand with few that are original owner. How does one know their CPS is original to the vehicle to begin with? Your statement that OEM CPS's last longer is really an absurd claim, there are none. It's not like they have a Chrysler logo stamped on them or even another manufacturer's logo on them to be able to determine when it was installed. When my year old fifteen dollar CPS takes a dump I'll post it here and I'll eat it after installing my spare.
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I've had to warranty things though Rock Auto and they are pretty good about it . I would find one that has a good warranty because the company does not like to warranty parts . that way it should last and not go bad so fast .
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There are no new manufacture OEM CPS's for XJ's now, they are all aftermarket third party. Even when Chrysler stocked them they came from a third party manufacturer and since the XJ is a curious mixture of SAE and Metric, chances are the CPS came from an outside the USA manufacturer even back then.
Like I said, it's your prerogative. Read on this site, NAXJA, XJTalk and others a while and you'll see MANY examples of people buying third-party sensors that didn't work correctly out of the box, or didn't last as long as OEM. I've never seen it the other way around. Use the search function, because I won't do the research for you. Also, I never stated there were specific examples of one brand of CPS that lasted longer than others. Try to read the words and take them at face value.
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The only problem is when the OEM does a contract with some one to make a part for them every year they have to cut the price they sell it to the OEM so if they have to cut something so they can sell it cheaper to the OEM , at least it is that way with ford and have seen the quality of some parts go down . also have seen it with GM .
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I stated above that Chrysler themselves never made CPSs. New Mopar-branded CPSs are still available. I just bought one a month ago. I will take pictures of the Mopar branding on it if you'd like. Is the manufacturer of that part different than it was 17 years ago? Is it of differing quality than it was then? Do you know for sure? I don't know, but I do know that OEMs typically hold their suppliers to high standards.
Like I said, it's your prerogative. Read on this site, NAXJA, XJTalk and others a while and you'll see MANY examples of people buying third-party sensors that didn't work correctly out of the box, or didn't last as long as OEM. I've never seen it the other way around. Use the search function, because I won't do the research for you. Also, I never stated there were specific examples of one brand of CPS that lasted longer than others. Try to read the words and take them at face value.
Like I said, it's your prerogative. Read on this site, NAXJA, XJTalk and others a while and you'll see MANY examples of people buying third-party sensors that didn't work correctly out of the box, or didn't last as long as OEM. I've never seen it the other way around. Use the search function, because I won't do the research for you. Also, I never stated there were specific examples of one brand of CPS that lasted longer than others. Try to read the words and take them at face value.
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When I pulled my CPS a year ago, it had no indications on it as to where it was made or by who. Original OEM? Possibly, possibly not as well. I had never changed it or had it changed. In fact I have never taken my XJ to a mechanic except to install a cat at the dealership under recall and to install a radiator I had bought but decided I didn't want to do it myself. Everything else I have done myself. I bought my XJ 10 years ago and it had less than 120k on the clock. My XJ at the time I replaced the CPS had 191k miles on it, now well over 192k. Even if it lasts only another 20k I still got better value out of the purchase than spending a C note for something that may last how long? I can get 8 CPS's for the price of one from Omix ADA and that would no doubt last me a lifetime. Seriously, swapping out a CPS is not the most difficult thing to do. I guess this can be a test to see how long my dirt cheap CPS will last compared to an expensive OEM one.
but I can't help bit chuckle when you said that you probably can't tell the difference between various cps and that a magnet is a magnet. You coukd literally say that about probably every product on the market. Just an example, let's say tires. You coukd say rubber is rubber and a cheap set of tires is no different then an expensive set. Working in a tire shop I can say that really isn't the case, no matter what some customers seem to think lol
but let's all just be content with our purchases and let others be content with theirs eh?
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I would definitely be interested in how long the non OEM CPSs last. I have 2 XJs and a 95 YJ. I have replaced the CPS on the '99 with an OEM after reading all the advice on the interwebs. A CPS does not seem like that complicated of a part. I bought a replacement for the 99 very recently while chasing some very rough hot idle problem (turned out to be the NAPA Echlin coil from ~3 years ago). On a whim, I called the local dealer and he said he had 1 in stock for something close to $200. I said that is a big markup and I can get it a different dealer on line for $124. He offered me the same price and I took it.