Does this seem like a pcm/ecu problem? Everything is failing!
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I’ll have to try all of that tomorrow morning, I wound up leaving the Jeep at work, I don’t want to make things worse or risk it breaking down on me.
it did fire right up and seemed pretty normal before I left; maybe the idle wasn’t as smooth as could be, but maybe I was just being overly sensitive.
I am worried about seeing so many codes come and go like that, a couple were of misfires and both sets of O2 sensors, and another sensor monitoring the wiring for the O2 sensors, something with the pcm monitoring another circuit shorting...weird stuff, it would definitely seem there is a short somewhere but I couldn’t find anything for the life of me and inched all along that thing
it did fire right up and seemed pretty normal before I left; maybe the idle wasn’t as smooth as could be, but maybe I was just being overly sensitive.
I am worried about seeing so many codes come and go like that, a couple were of misfires and both sets of O2 sensors, and another sensor monitoring the wiring for the O2 sensors, something with the pcm monitoring another circuit shorting...weird stuff, it would definitely seem there is a short somewhere but I couldn’t find anything for the life of me and inched all along that thing
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so I came in early to try and tackle these suggestions, and it turns out there was no fuse in slot 10! Fixing that, the codes disappeared, guess user error was in fact the problem...not sure how doing them one at a time I missed that, but probably because I have an extra in one of the “open” spots that threw my count off.
as far as the drain, bypassing the pdc I will see the 70mA, while doing this I disconnected the alternator and the starter and still see it, where is the next place to look? The wires are covered so I can trace the continuation of the + red wire
so I came in early to try and tackle these suggestions, and it turns out there was no fuse in slot 10! Fixing that, the codes disappeared, guess user error was in fact the problem...not sure how doing them one at a time I missed that, but probably because I have an extra in one of the “open” spots that threw my count off.
as far as the drain, bypassing the pdc I will see the 70mA, while doing this I disconnected the alternator and the starter and still see it, where is the next place to look? The wires are covered so I can trace the continuation of the + red wire
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So to be clear, if the red wire to PDC is disconnected, drain stops, but if red is connected to green, and the PDC is completely bypassed, drain appears?
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If your vehicle has the security system, check the key lock switches. Not the door switches.
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So you think it’s a problem with the grounding? Am I looking for a short before the pdc?
I had fully disconnected the alt this morning when I still saw the drain.
im honestly not sure if I do have the security system haha, no blinking red light, that’s for sure.
I had fully disconnected the alt this morning when I still saw the drain.
im honestly not sure if I do have the security system haha, no blinking red light, that’s for sure.
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LOL that should be reading the full short circuit current of the battery, dude. How many cold cranking amps you have there? 800 amps? If you're on the 10A scale, you for sure popped the little fuse in the meter. Good luck finding those for less than the cost of a new meter.
If you're on the mA scale you fried the meter.
If you're on the mA scale you fried the meter.
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Right...I can see how that would be a problem haha. I generally do not know enough about electronics/circuits to have considered that would blow the multi, though in hindsight it seems pretty obvious!
so for days I’ve been using this thing in that condition. It seems to still work though, but I guess these are unreliable readings then
so for days I’ve been using this thing in that condition. It seems to still work though, but I guess these are unreliable readings then
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Ok, broke out another multimeter, got 1.56mA from negative terminal to negative post, which actually seems a little low now! Haha
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