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vfirth 01-25-2011 09:19 AM

Dipstick tube oil change?
 
Does anyone have any experience with changing the oil on their XJ through the dipstick tube? I have many customer reviews for foreign and domestic cars, but nothing in the Jeep family. Was wondering if it might make a difference.

In particular, I have been looking at the mityvac 7400 http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_fee.asp#07400

Also, most reviews have been favoable, but a few concerning reports about gasket and seal failures on the unit when synthetic and synthetic blend oils are used. (I use a semi-syn blend)

djb383 01-25-2011 10:20 AM

If using a suction pump would make maintenance easier for some (thus maybe done more frequent) vehicle owners, then I'm all for it. BUT, draining the oil thru the hole in the pan will always yield a more complete drain than a suction pump.

Synthetic/synthetic blend oils causing gasket/seal damage is just a myth continuously perpetuated on the Internet.

OttawaXJ 01-25-2011 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by djb383 (Post 828517)
If using a suction pump would make maintenance easier for some (thus maybe done more frequent) vehicle owners, then I'm all for it. BUT, draining the oil thru the hole in the pan will always yield a more complete drain than a suction pump.

Synthetic/synthetic blend oils causing gasket/seal damage is just a myth continuously perpetuated on the Internet.

Agreed, Total BS.

Synthetics clean your engine, if you had gunk plugging up a hole that was already in your gasket it'll clear it out and probably leak. But it should be fixed anyway.

EUGENE the JEEP 01-25-2011 11:57 AM

s**t falls down hill not up

Sideways99 01-25-2011 12:05 PM

jeeps are meant to be drained from below and filled through valve cover
read the manual.....
don't cut corners

EUGENE the JEEP 01-25-2011 12:06 PM

Thats why they have DRAIN... PLUGS...

djb383 01-25-2011 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by EUGENE the JEEP (Post 828681)
s**t falls down hill not up

That's totally true about *****, but at the same time, motor oil contains sophisticated additives that keep the crud/dirt/***** suspended, especially when the oil is circulating.......that's why it's recommended that the engine be warmed up, then the oil changed.

djb383 01-25-2011 01:01 PM

Dayum.....how does s**t get spelled with 5 asterisk?:rofl:

EUGENE the JEEP 01-25-2011 01:05 PM

:dunno:

vfirth 01-25-2011 01:08 PM

clarification
 
I apparently was not clear about the comment regarding gasket/seal failure... That was in regards to the gasket/seals on the syphon unit itself, NOT in the engine.

And yes, I realize the purpose of draining the oil through the drain plug is to flush out all the gunk... that's the way I do it all the time. However, I find myself driving a lot more these days, thus increasing the frequency of oil changes. I was only planning on doing the overhead method every other time or so to save some labor. Just wanted to see if anyone else had used this method or specific pump on their XJ in the past.

thanks.

wildbill1 01-25-2011 02:24 PM


Originally Posted by vfirth (Post 828769)
I apparently was not clear about the comment regarding gasket/seal failure... That was in regards to the gasket/seals on the syphon unit itself, NOT in the engine.

And yes, I realize the purpose of draining the oil through the drain plug is to flush out all the gunk... that's the way I do it all the time. However, I find myself driving a lot more these days, thus increasing the frequency of oil changes. I was only planning on doing the overhead method every other time or so to save some labor. Just wanted to see if anyone else had used this method or specific pump on their XJ in the past.

thanks.

I suppose you could pump the old oil up through the dipstick tube with a Mity-Vac, but if it's supposed to be a labor saving measure, it seems counter-productive to me. I'd rather pull the drain plug than pump 5-6 quarts through a Mity-Vac. To each his own, I guess.

djb383 01-25-2011 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by vfirth (Post 828769)
I apparently was not clear about the comment regarding gasket/seal failure... That was in regards to the gasket/seals on the syphon unit itself, NOT in the engine.........

Unless Mighty-Vac says synthetic oil will damage the pumps seals, it's a myth. But, if they say damage may occur, think i'd be looking for another unit.

Cnwxj 01-28-2011 12:58 AM


Originally Posted by vfirth
Does anyone have any experience with changing the oil on their XJ through the dipstick tube? I have many customer reviews for foreign and domestic cars, but nothing in the Jeep family. Was wondering if it might make a difference.

In particular, I have been looking at the mityvac 7400 http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_fee.asp#07400

Also, most reviews have been favoable, but a few concerning reports about gasket and seal failures on the unit when synthetic and synthetic blend oils are used. (I use a semi-syn blend)

I worked at a BMW dealer and this is how we changed oil. The only reason was to speed up the process( no lift, and the unholy # of screws holding on the belly pans). The machine we used cost like 5000.00 and was messy. I have a mityvac that I use to fill newer trans w/o dipsticks, it sucks and blows. If this is for home use I would save the cash.

Cnwxj 01-28-2011 01:03 AM


Originally Posted by vfirth
Does anyone have any experience with changing the oil on their XJ through the dipstick tube? I have many customer reviews for foreign and domestic cars, but nothing in the Jeep family. Was wondering if it might make a difference.

In particular, I have been looking at the mityvac 7400 http://www.mityvac.com/pages/products_fee.asp#07400

Also, most reviews have been favoable, but a few concerning reports about gasket and seal failures on the unit when synthetic and synthetic blend oils are used. (I use a semi-syn blend)

Sorry, I just went to the link. I have that one too, it's for bleeding brakes, clutches and such. It only hold 2.5l or so, but it is awesome for brakes.

Spoonman 01-28-2011 01:25 AM


Originally Posted by djb383 (Post 828758)
That's totally true about *****, but at the same time, motor oil contains sophisticated additives that keep the crud/dirt/***** suspended, especially when the oil is circulating.......that's why it's recommended that the engine be warmed up, then the oil changed.

Except for sludge which separates from the oil and settles at the lowest point it can.


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