Alignment won't stay put
Hello all, first time posting, but I've been lurking for years.
I am not much of mechanic, but I do my own maintenance, and swap parts. I have a 1990 XJ Pioneer 4x4, 4.0. I have 235x75r15 tires, but other than that, it's fully stock. I hadn't had any problems with it, until I replaced the tie rods. I took it in for an alignment, and a week later the alignment was off again. Right tire toe pointed out about two inches by eye ball. So into the shop it went. Turns out the (I don't know what it's called) place where the right outer tie rod mounts had been ovaled out. It was replaced, realigned, and a week later off again. The tie rod was torn up pretty bad from riding in the ovaled out mount, so it got replaced, and realigned. A week later, you guessed it, it's out again. I'm running low on money, and tread on my tires. Please help. |
Have somebody check rock the wheel slowly back and forth while you're under there looking for slop at all the suspension parts. Any slop in these parts means they need to be replaced.
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Jarvie
(Post 3523974)
Hello all, first time posting, but I've been lurking for years.
I am not much of mechanic, but I do my own maintenance, and swap parts. I have a 1990 XJ Pioneer 4x4, 4.0. I have 235x75r15 tires, but other than that, it's fully stock. I hadn't had any problems with it, until I replaced the tie rods. I took it in for an alignment, and a week later the alignment was off again. Right tire toe pointed out about two inches by eye ball. So into the shop it went. Turns out the (I don't know what it's called) place where the right outer tie rod mounts had been ovaled out. It was replaced, realigned, and a week later off again. The tie rod was torn up pretty bad from riding in the ovaled out mount, so it got replaced, and realigned. A week later, you guessed it, it's out again. I'm running low on money, and tread on my tires. Please help. |
Welcome to the site and good luck finding your problem Jonathan Jarvie !
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Originally Posted by Jonathan Jarvie
(Post 3523974)
Hello all, first time posting, but I've been lurking for years.
I am not much of mechanic, but I do my own maintenance, and swap parts. I have a 1990 XJ Pioneer 4x4, 4.0. I have 235x75r15 tires, but other than that, it's fully stock. I hadn't had any problems with it, until I replaced the tie rods. I took it in for an alignment, and a week later the alignment was off again. Right tire toe pointed out about two inches by eye ball. So into the shop it went. Turns out the (I don't know what it's called) place where the right outer tie rod mounts had been ovaled out. It was replaced, realigned, and a week later off again. The tie rod was torn up pretty bad from riding in the ovaled out mount, so it got replaced, and realigned. A week later, you guessed it, it's out again. I'm running low on money, and tread on my tires. Please help. Honestly, if the shop you go to can't figure that out, find another shop. |
I think you need a different shop, or at least a different alignment tech if you're using the same guy. A *good* alignment shop should check 'everything' on a proper alignment rack with suspension at normal ride-height before starting out. Some shops put a vehicle up on a hoist, but when suspension parts fall to full 'droop' they may not appear to be sloppy in that position. Some techs are just plain lazy and aren't willing to go the extra mile to look at EVERYTHING. It shouldn't be that tricky. I can see a shop missing one thing, that can happen, but not this many times. If it's the same tech all the time, he doesn't know what he's doing.
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Originally Posted by firebane
(Post 3524031)
If sounds like the hole on the knuckle is wallowed out and if so... you will need a new knuckle or that will never stay put.
Everything seems tight to me. I had it in the shop again today, they have given up. I am going to take it to an alignment place, that does free inspections, to see if they can figure it out. |
I'll agree with the others - find a different shop. A proper and reputable shop shouldn't even do an alignment if there's worn parts unless you are informed and insist.
Just a thought on the "free inspections" -- sometimes you truly do "get what you pay for". You might try seeking out an independent shop (not a chain store or discount tire place) with a good reputation. I have a locally owned tire shop near my work (45min from home) that is spectacular and I won't take my XJ or the family car anywhere else. They're not as cheap as the discount chains, but they aren't a whole lot more either and the work is always top notch. |
Originally Posted by PatHenry
(Post 3524664)
I'll agree with the others - find a different shop. A proper and reputable shop shouldn't even do an alignment if there's worn parts unless you are informed and insist.
Just a thought on the "free inspections" -- sometimes you truly do "get what you pay for". You might try seeking out an independent shop (not a chain store or discount tire place) with a good reputation. I have a locally owned tire shop near my work (45min from home) that is spectacular and I won't take my XJ or the family car anywhere else. They're not as cheap as the discount chains, but they aren't a whole lot more either and the work is always top notch. I got it back from Perfection Tire today. They said the track bar was incorrectly installed, and the bushing had failed. It has been replaced, and we are on the fourth alignment. Fingers crossed this one will hold. |
Originally Posted by Jonathan Jarvie
(Post 3524688)
I got it back from Perfection Tire today. They said the track bar was incorrectly installed, and the bushing had failed. It has been replaced, and we are on the fourth alignment. Fingers crossed this one will hold.
Oof. |
A good alignment guy should check everything out first before doing an alignment.
Not much to align other than toe. But he still should check all the parts before committing to making an adjustment. Good luck |
Well it's been a couple weeks, and the alignment is still on. I even took it up a service trail. Just wanted to let anyone who finds this thread know, it was the track bar.
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Nice!!! Thanks for posting back with the resolution!
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