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Ryan Riddle 10-13-2016 03:47 PM

Air In Coolant System
 
So winter's around the corner and I decided to drain the water out of the coolant system of my 87 Cherokee and add antifreeze. Somewhere along the way I got air in the system and the thermostat won't open. I've tried burping the system by leaving the cap off the reservoir, turning the heat up, and letting it idle. Lots of air came out but the thermostat still won't open. I've been doing this for the past two days. It's driving me crazy. Can I get any suggestions?

JeepMN 10-13-2016 03:56 PM

this funnel is a real life saver

Ralph77 10-13-2016 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by JeepMN (Post 3317165)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zUpXgAJ1gjU this funnel is a real life saver

X2 on the funnel. $25 well spent. I usually just do what I can, drive the Jeep, keep the overflow up to level, and in a couple days all the air has burped out. With this funnel dead on from the get go. Did you replace the thermostat or is it the old one? If new would not be the first time a part was defective out of the box. If old maybe just needs to go?

Firestorm500 10-13-2016 04:41 PM

Turn the heat full on, take off the bottle cap, and run it up to about 1500 RPMs and hold it there for a while.

If you still have the closed cooling system, you can peek through the gap where the hood is open and see the air bubbles burp out of the system through the coolant bottle. When they stop, you're done.

Ryan Riddle 10-13-2016 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Ralph77 (Post 3317168)
X2 on the funnel. $25 well spent. I usually just do what I can, drive the Jeep, keep the overflow up to level, and in a couple days all the air has burped out. With this funnel dead on from the get go. Did you replace the thermostat or is it the old one? If new would not be the first time a part was defective out of the box. If old maybe just needs to go?

I replaced the water pump, thermostat, radiator, and reservoir cap over the summer. Filled the coolant system with water at the time and everything worked fine. I Now decided to drain the water and add antifreeze and air got in the system. I tried burping the system and didn't work. Is there anything else I can do?

Big David 10-13-2016 08:13 PM

This can be a huge pain with the closed system on the Renix engines. I've not tried this but, park on a hill with the nose down. Remove the temperature sending unit on the head at the back of the driver's side.
This should allow all the air to escape.
Like I said, I've not personally done this but have experienced the frustrating "air in system" in my old MJ. I was ready to drive it off a cliff.

Ryan Riddle 10-14-2016 05:49 PM


Originally Posted by Big David (Post 3317229)
This can be a huge pain with the closed system on the Renix engines. I've not tried this but, park on a hill with the nose down. Remove the temperature sending unit on the head at the back of the driver's side.
This should allow all the air to escape.
Like I said, I've not personally done this but have experienced the frustrating "air in system" in my old MJ. I was ready to drive it off a cliff.

This is driving me insane. I've done everything and the thermostat still won't open. I don't know what else to do. I GIVE UP.

djgrayxj 10-14-2016 09:18 PM

Note from DJ
First do you have the original closed system; no radiator cap on the radiator?
Next remove the thermostat and place it in an old pot of water on the stove apply heat and see if it opens.

djgrayxj 10-14-2016 10:30 PM

Note from DJ
Have a look at this for coolant flow and closed loop pressure bottle.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...b098b99cbe.png

Firestorm500 10-15-2016 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by Ryan Riddle (Post 3317529)
This is driving me insane. I've done everything and the thermostat still won't open. I don't know what else to do. I GIVE UP.

Assuming your thermostat is good, doing what I suggested earlier should do the trick.

It worked every time for me on my '87 with the closed cooling system.

It won't get hot enough at normal idle to burp.

Ryan Riddle 01-27-2017 11:48 AM

Its been a while since I commented on this thread but I just got the Lisle Spill Free funnel to burp my 87 xj but none of the fittings fit on the reservoir. What do I do?

Slow 01-28-2017 10:01 PM

Ditch the funnel and use a vacuum filler to bleed the system.

rgallardo 01-29-2019 11:25 PM

About to try this this weekend. Everyone use 50/50? There is no bleeder valve on our Jeeps right?

gat 01-29-2019 11:57 PM

I learned of this from ChrisFix on YouTube. This is a wrost case scenario for me, but you can drill a small whole near where the edge of the head meets the thermostat into the thermostat. There will always be some flow, but it won't be high flow until the thermostat opens. You won't have to worry about air and burping on your closed system.

cruiser54 01-30-2019 07:03 AM

If the resevoir cap is good, it should self bleed.


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