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98 4.0 ax15 no crank with ignition, starts fine from PDB

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Old 10-03-2013, 02:28 PM
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Vehicle specs above. I opened up and cleaned mud out of the fuse box yesterday and it started fine before doing that. Didn't try starting it again after I was done. Came out today and I have can't crank the motor. Ran through the no start check list I found on 3 different sites. I can start the Jeep just fine if I jump 87-30 on the starter relay in the PDB and tuns just fine if I do that. IGN switch is OK, all accessory power turns off while trying to crank. CKP ok, spark ok, fuel ok, checked/replaced all fuses and relays related to starting. Jeep does run fine when started from PDB.

What wire is it that goes from the kick panel fuse box and sends signal to the starter relay? I'm fairly confident my issue lies in that connection.
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Update, checked NSS/CSS and it is not the issue.
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Update, problem solved. I'll archive my findings for future reference. I chewed up a couple connectors pulling them out cause they were caked in mud, I pulled one of the wires out of the connector and that was my issue. The large black and pink wire comes into the fuse panel and gives power to (among other things I'm sure) the #19 fuse, then runs back out the yellow and red wire. My issue was the yellow and red wire. It's just another thing to check if you have a no start issue and have ever messed around in the fuse box.

It's the top left connector (labeled C1 in my FSM) and the one below it (labeled C2).

98 4.0 ax15 no crank with ignition, starts fine from PDB-forumrunner_20131003_180009.jpg

The 2 wires are outlined in salmon color in this pic to show them.

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Update, problem solved. I'll archive my findings for future reference. I chewed up a couple connectors pulling them out cause they were caked in mud,
Never understood the love of mud, something totally irrational. I got mud stuck once and vowed never again. Learned that nothing so stuck as a stuck 4WD. If in doubt, I park the 4WD and start walking.

To each his own.
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Originally Posted by MtnHermit
Never understood the love of mud, something totally irrational. I got mud stuck once and vowed never again. Learned that nothing so stuck as a stuck 4WD. If in doubt, I park the 4WD and start walking.

To each his own.
Trust me im not a mud guy either. Especially with my doors off. My friends convinced me to go for this though.

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