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Brad G 04-29-2021 05:39 AM

In the same boat. Tested my plugs finally last night. Had to buy a fuel pressure gauge and plan on testing tonight as well.

With this forum and cruiser's help, maniax99, we'll get this!

Brad G 04-29-2021 12:17 PM

Ok I was able to test the fuel pressure finally.

Only twice did I ever get over zero. I got 30 twice.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...8d4a048324.jpg

I never got it to start, though. I got no readings at all until I messed with that little solenoid that manix also did.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...0e3d974e77.jpg

After I disconnected and reconnected the solid green one middle left, it jumped to 30 PSI. but I never got it to start. Perhaps it was a coincidence since I was starting it and trying to watch through the crack in the hood for changes to the gauge.

I can try again tomorrow with a second person.


cruiser54 04-29-2021 06:31 PM

30 is 10 pounds too low.

Brad G 04-29-2021 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by cruiser54 (Post 3644626)
30 is 10 pounds too low.

I just got it started, and it's running at 30 PSI constantly. I hear the pump priming now, too. And a few posts up I mentioned (I think) that on my Renix Monitor II that my oxygen relay voltage had recently dropped real low around when this started.

Well, I was cleaning out the relay plugs on the passenger side for the umpteenth time - the ones I assume are a fuel pump reply, the o2 heater relay, and 2 others - so on a hunch...I just swapped two of them. I turned the key, heard the pump, it started right up, my o2 heater reading was back in the 13s (it was dropping under 1 for a while here).

I wanted to check voltages on the fuel pump but I am not sure where to check for it. Do I take that back panel off again behind the spare tire?

I am going to give it a bit and go see if it starts again.

Weird?

cruiser54 04-29-2021 06:55 PM

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...121adb4e07.jpg
Might do some more pokin around that relay center.

Brad G 04-29-2021 07:10 PM

It was the middle two I swapped, although I don't have a power latch (well, I don't think). All of them have been removed and cleaned at some point, used a dental pick to clean and pry the contacts a little on all of them, too. But this definitely is starting to make sense.

All the relays looked the same ? I will try to get the block out this weekend and check the wiring underneath it.

cruiser54 04-29-2021 07:41 PM

Relays all the same.
What can happen is the wires coming up into the block can back out.

maniax99 05-01-2021 04:49 PM

so i tested the fuel pressure...i got about 31-32 psi with the key off. it stayed around 30psi for like 5 minutes before i release the pressure. i then turned the key to ON and got 0. i tried cranking and got 0.

i think the fuel pressure tester might have failed at some point because it wont give me a reading. i tried getting a reading with the key off and got 0. ive tried on a working car and still nothing. So i need to go get another tester. Any other thing i should try aside from the fuel pressure?


maniax99 05-01-2021 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by Brad G (Post 3644582)
In the same boat. Tested my plugs finally last night. Had to buy a fuel pressure gauge and plan on testing tonight as well.

With this forum and cruiser's help, maniax99, we'll get this!

thanks! hopefully we can figure it out lol

Brad G 05-01-2021 06:29 PM


Originally Posted by maniax99 (Post 3644764)
so i tested the fuel pressure...i got about 31-32 psi with the key off. it stayed around 30psi for like 5 minutes before i release the pressure. i then turned the key to ON and got 0. i tried cranking and got 0.

i think the fuel pressure tester might have failed at some point because it wont give me a reading. i tried getting a reading with the key off and got 0. ive tried on a working car and still nothing. So i need to go get another tester. Any other thing i should try aside from the fuel pressure?

My tester would read 0 many times too, while cranking. Then occasionally it would hit 30 and still wouldn't start, then occasionally hit 30 and would start.

I cleaned all four of the relays and their sockets and tightened up all the pins today. Mine has started every time the last several days. Tomorrow I drive it around further than the neighborhood.

cruiser54 05-01-2021 07:51 PM

A bit of a reminder to all in this thread.

My Tips are a MUST right off the bat. Save yourselves some headaches and JUST DO EM!

Roler 05-01-2021 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by cruiser54 (Post 3644780)
A bit of a reminder to all in this thread.

My Tips are a MUST right off the bat. Save yourselves some headaches and JUST DO EM!

Hallelujah on this fine morning!

cruiser54 05-01-2021 08:12 PM

Hey Roler!!

maniax99 05-03-2021 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by cruiser54 (Post 3644556)
Fuel pressure needs to be measured.

so i tested the fuel pressure...i got about 31-32 psi with the key off. it stayed around 30psi for like 5 minutes before i release the pressure. i then turned the key to ON and got 0. i tried cranking and got 0.

i think the fuel pressure tester might have failed at some point because it wont give me a reading. i tried getting a reading with the key off and got 0. ive tried on a working car and still nothing. So i need to go get another tester. Any other thing i should try aside from the fuel pressure?


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