4 liter Cherokee drivetrain in a Russian UAZ 469
Hello, I´m new on this forum, but certainly not a beginner when it comes to builds. I´m thinking of swapping a 4 liter Cherokee engine, transnission, transfer case and axles into a UAZ 469. My question is about how difficult this may be, in regards of the Engine control Module and such things. The Actual hardware swap I see only as a Challenge, not too complicated :) Any hints or ideas anyone? We´ll go into details as this thread gets underway :)
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.che...557cf7cc16.jpg A stock UAZ 469 |
I would imagine provided that you take the loom and required sensors to the new vehicle, you shouldn't run into too many problems. I know the 97+ XJs have some sort of CAN BUS system so I don't know if that would cause any extra work or if it was just how the instrument cluster spoke to the PCM. I'm also sure that the 97+ TCM and PCM can communicate to throw trans related engine codes. Personally I'd be aiming for a 95 down (not being biased) (96 is a bit of a mixed year with hard to find diagrams) as they were a tad simpler and I'd imagine a little harder to wire something wrong. I would in any case advise you to download the suitable FSM from Cruiser's website here: http://cruiser54.com/?page_id=365 as the wiring diagrams may help a lot.
The XJ also loves the use of vacuum to control different things (not engine related bar MAP sensor) so you would need to plug a few vacuum feeds on the inlet manifold if no longer needed. |
XJ model
Thank you for the input. I forgot to say in my tread that I haven´t bought a donor vehicle yet. So in view of your answer, I´ll aim for a ´95 or older, I like things simple :) It may even be simplest to integrate the Cherokee instrument cluster to the VERY spartan UAZ dashboard.
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I would definitely second the 95 and earlier setup. Really, a 91-95 would be best and I'd (of course) highly recommend going with a manual transmission.
If it were me, I'd want to make sure you can fit the long I6 into the engine compartment of the UAZ - it was barely enough room to put it in the XJ. |
l6 length issue
Thank you sir. I am very well aware of the possible length issue with the l6 engine, but you´ll have a hard time finding a vehicle body simpler than the UAZ 69, and easier to modify. And besides, sometime last century I got a Masters certificate in sheet metal work, so stretching a panel or two is no problem.
But anyhow, this is still in the primal stages, seeing if this is a workable idea that happened to pop into my head :) |
Don't you just love ideas that pop into your head. That's how I have a dual engine lawn mower with a 110cc pit bike engine on the drive and 50cc brigs engine for the deck.
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Originally Posted by ingthorsson
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Thank you sir. I am very well aware of the possible length issue with the l6 engine, but you´ll have a hard time finding a vehicle body simpler than the UAZ 69, and easier to modify. And besides, sometime last century I got a Masters certificate in sheet metal work, so stretching a panel or two is no problem.
But anyhow, this is still in the primal stages, seeing if this is a workable idea that happened to pop into my head :) |
Originally Posted by boxburn
(Post 3586792)
I have a dual engine lawn mower with a 110cc pit bike engine on the drive and 50cc brigs engine for the deck.
I love it! :D |
I don´t have the UAZ yet. I´m about to move to Ukraine as I´m retired and my pension makes it very hard to eke out a living here in Iceland, but I can live a good life on it in Ukraine. I´d simply use a Cherokee down there, but they will not register a vehicle older than 12 years, and I can´t afford a decent vehicle that new. So my plan is to get an old, cheap rig to take with me, and scrap it once there, and use the parts in a UAZ that is already registered.
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Originally Posted by ingthorsson
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Thank you sir. I am very well aware of the possible length issue with the l6 engine, but you´ll have a hard time finding a vehicle body simpler than the UAZ 69, and easier to modify. And besides, sometime last century I got a Masters certificate in sheet metal work, so stretching a panel or two is no problem.
But anyhow, this is still in the primal stages, seeing if this is a workable idea that happened to pop into my head :) But, if Garage54 can stuff a 7 liter into a Lada, you can do this lol. |
The way I see it, ANYTHING is possible. It´s just a question of how much trouble one is willing to overcome :)
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It's simply a matter of time, money, and dedication.
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