Modified XJ Cherokee Tech XJ (84-01)
All modified tech questions. If it modifies your XJ beyond stock parts ask it here.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Track Bar

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-19-2014, 04:48 PM
  #1  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default Track Bar

The ball joint on my track bar seemed like it was on it's way out, it was leaking grease and looking generally sad. So, I ordered a new adjustable track bar from Rocky Road Outfitters. I had a choice of two different lengths, 0"-3" and 3"-6". Since I'm at exactly 3" I decided to go with the 3"-6" assuming I'll never go back to stock height but may, one day, go higher. The problem I'm having (I assume it's a problem) is that even with the track bar adjusted to its shortest length it's too long to center the axle. My axle is currently pushed 3/4" to the passenger side. My question... is this something I should be concerned with? The other thing it's done is to push my steering wheel 1/2 turn from center so now the spokes of the steering wheel are vertical when I'm driving straight.

It seems to track straight and doesn't pull to either side and I've measured the toe and it's 1/8th toe-in.
Old 04-19-2014, 07:40 PM
  #2  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

I drove around the block and remeasured. It's closer to 5/8" to the passenger side.
Old 04-19-2014, 08:29 PM
  #3  
Member
 
foreveryoung001's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Traverse City, MI
Posts: 179
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L
Default

Not positive on the off center axle, but you can adjust your steering wheel with the adjustment sleeve on the draglink, by the pitman arm. With your tires straight, loosen it up, twist it till the wheel is centered, then tighten it back up. Should only take ya ten minutes, if that. (I had to use a pipe wrench to get the sleeve to move on mine, but it was a really easy adjustment)
Old 04-19-2014, 09:05 PM
  #4  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by foreveryoung001
Not positive on the off center axle, but you can adjust your steering wheel with the adjustment sleeve on the draglink, by the pitman arm. With your tires straight, loosen it up, twist it till the wheel is centered, then tighten it back up. Should only take ya ten minutes, if that. (I had to use a pipe wrench to get the sleeve to move on mine, but it was a really easy adjustment)
Thank you. I just went out and did that, worked perfectly, wheel straight.
Old 04-20-2014, 09:07 AM
  #5  
CF Veteran
 
93gc40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Visalia, Kalifornia, ussa
Posts: 2,750
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Add more lift..... another 1" or so will fix the issue.
Old 04-20-2014, 11:55 AM
  #6  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by 93gc40
Add more lift..... another 1" or so will fix the issue.
LOL. Okay, I'll do that today.
Old 04-20-2014, 01:57 PM
  #7  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Soooo... does it matter if my front axle is off-center by 5/8ths of an inch?
Old 04-20-2014, 06:41 PM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Kingfisher's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Central Indiana
Posts: 552
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1996
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by F1Addict
Soooo... does it matter if my front axle is off-center by 5/8ths of an inch?

If you raise it another inch it should fix that.
Old 04-20-2014, 06:49 PM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
EvstaG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: St. Albert
Posts: 731
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L I6
Default

Originally Posted by F1Addict
Soooo... does it matter if my front axle is off-center by 5/8ths of an inch?
Does it matter to you? The Jeep might pull a bit under hard braking, but other than that it is a non-issue. There are many people that run considerable lift heights with the stock track bar. For me, I am a bit picky with these types of things, and I wouldn't want one tire out further than the other. But that's just me.
Old 04-20-2014, 06:52 PM
  #10  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by Kingfisher
If you raise it another inch it should fix that.
I know! 93gc40 told me.

Well, considering the lack of enthusiasm for my question I'm going to assume the axle being off-center isn't critical like say, control arms made of PVC might be, so I'm not going to worry about it
Old 04-20-2014, 06:56 PM
  #11  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by EvstaG
Does it matter to you? The Jeep might pull a bit under hard braking, but other than that it is a non-issue. There are many people that run considerable lift heights with the stock track bar. For me, I am a bit picky with these types of things, and I wouldn't want one tire out further than the other. But that's just me.
I'm picky, too, but the 5/8ths of an inch isn't visually evident. The only way you can tell is to put a ruler on it and if I see anyone trying to measure my axle I'll just turn the hose on them. Problem solved. Thank you for answering, though.

P.S. it doesn't pull under hard braking.
Old 04-20-2014, 09:06 PM
  #12  
Herp Derp Jerp
 
salad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Parham, ON
Posts: 18,251
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Default

Word on the street is that the axles were slightly set to the right from the factory to help prevent wander on sloped pavement (most streets with a rain gutter/ditch to the right). Check the rest of your alignment and do a chalk test. If wear patterns on your tires look good and it steers fine I wouldn't worry.
Old 04-20-2014, 10:42 PM
  #13  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by salad
Word on the street is that the axles were slightly set to the right from the factory to help prevent wander on sloped pavement (most streets with a rain gutter/ditch to the right). Check the rest of your alignment and do a chalk test. If wear patterns on your tires look good and it steers fine I wouldn't worry.
The passenger side axle was set slightly forward (1/2") from the factory to counter the crown on most North American road systems but that was accomplished with shims behind the LCA. I did a driveway alignment and all is well. My toe is 1/8th inch (toe-in), my wheel base is 101.5" passenger and 101.0" driver, caster is set to 87º. Like I said, it feels perfect with moderate centering force and arrow straight tracking. I'll keep an eye on my tires for any signs of irregular wear.
Old 04-21-2014, 06:48 AM
  #14  
Herp Derp Jerp
 
salad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Parham, ON
Posts: 18,251
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 11 Posts
Year: 1999
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0L OBD-II
Default

Ahhh. Very well then.

Just for fun, have you measured the actual amount of lift at 3"?
Old 04-21-2014, 12:38 PM
  #15  
CF Veteran
Thread Starter
 
F1Addict's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: SoCal
Posts: 2,381
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Year: 1989
Model: Cherokee
Engine: 4.0
Default

Originally Posted by salad
Ahhh. Very well then.

Just for fun, have you measured the actual amount of lift at 3"?
I did, that's how I came up with 3 inches. I measured everything before I started swapping parts and aligning and made this drawing

Name:  measurements_zps07942250.jpg
Views: 25
Size:  103.7 KB

Looks like the average is 2.90 inches.


Quick Reply: Track Bar



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 AM.