helmut

Ok, then. I have been running the IRO double shear track bar with the drop bracket and no drop pitman arm with no death wobble whatsoever. I am at 4.5in of lift.

OEJ

Haha...In that case you go boy...

helmut

BTW. I have their 4.5in leafs that are too short. Did you guys get RC to replace them for 3inchers at no cost?

OEJ

Helmut.
No. when that thread was goin on i thought they were talking about the 3" leafs... that was just me not paying attention. Jason brought it to my attention because i had called him to complain about it too. then i realized that once i put it on the ground that it would prolly not have that affect the the 4.5" leafs were having. but it took me an additional few weeks before i could get back to finnishing my lift install.

so it sat on jack stands for almost 3 weeks. so saturday when i finnished it, my shackle angle was where it should be. needless to say i felt like an a$$ when jason said "ummm its for 4.5" packs" and i wasn't even done installing the lift. I definately jumped the gun...lol

Sorry Jason. I should have waited. i dont want you think that i was trying to put one over on you. that sir; was NOT the case. I had an extreme blonde moment.

GRIMUS99XJ

IRON ROCKS double shear ^^^^



ROUGH COUNTRY double shear ^^^^

IRON ROCKS TRE style ^^^


ROUGH COUNTRY'S TRE style ^^^

yes the angle of the photos are different but its easy to see the bends are not the same between the tre style and the double shear however when comparing identical styles to opposing companies you can see the IRO and R/C tre style bars are identical and the IRO and R/C double shear bars are identical.

I am also not wanting to argue with you about this however I will defend our products when I know them to be right. I publicly stated that the leafs were a little short and have made arrangements for that to be corrected, I have publicly admitted back when we as well as all most all other companies were having shock bushing issues that we had issues and I publicly acknowledged that we has some joint and bushing flaws in our first generation x flex arms, all of which has been corrected and only the haunting forum chatter keeps them alive. Every issue that has came up I have done my part to address and corrected if need be but this is one of those cases that I know that this is not an on-going issue or design flaw

Jason

Trumpster

Well Jason, I'll post the pictures AGAIN of the track bar that I have sitting in a box in my garage to prove once again that they are not the same design.

EDIT:

*** Let me be clear, here, I'm not saying that you haven't taken care of me on the rear leaf springs. I have touted your customer service on that issue several times. I'm focused on the track bar here. I have no other qualms right now. ***

The bar you show a picture of there is NOT the track bar that I was sent by Rough Country.

All 3 Track Bars - Top View: Stock, RC, IRO



All 3 Track Bars - Side View: IRO, RC, Stock (front to back)



Very clearly NOT the same track bar that you have a picture of there. I'm not saying that this is an ongoing issue, but this is an issue. Is it possible manufacturing is fine and I got sent the wrong track bar? I think it is.

If you're going to try to tell me that the track bar I have in my garage is the same as what you put a picture up of then I'm not sure if we're looking at the same pictures.

I have been trying very hard to not get overly frustrated with this and provided the opportunity for you to call or email me directly to keep this off the public forum, but you chose to keep it here so this is where I will continue with it.

I am not a difficult person in most cases, I understand that mistakes happen. I understand that parts don't usually go in buttery smooth. I get that cars are all different and so are all the parts that are made for them as well as the manufacturing processes used to create said parts. The bottom line here is that the Rough Country track bar that I was sent is not the correct fit whether it be by manufacturing defect or a mis-picked part for a kit. I don't know, what I do know is that it doesn't fit and the Iron Rock Offroad track bar does.

GRIMUS99XJ

im not saying you have the same Rough Country bar as shown in the first r/c pic (second pic posted) which if you had would be identical to the IRO one. WHat I am saying is again you can not compare a double shear trac bar to a TRE style trac bar. They ARE different bars. IRO tre style bar is different from their double shear bar, our TRE bar is different from our double shear bar,

That is the only point I am trying to make is that you are not comparing the same style bars against each other therefore you can not say that based on what you have in your garage our bar is wrong.

If you had our double shear bar and held it up to IRO double shear bar you would see the bends and angles are Identicle. Feel free to contact IRO and ask them as they are a large distributor of ours. They to will tell you that apples to apples the bars are the same only theirs is made from solid stock where ours are DOM.

Trumpster

This will be my last post because this clearly isn't going anywhere.

The IRO track bar is the same double sheer or single sheer with the exception of the end that threads into the track bar being a TRE or a bushing mount to be compatible with the double sheer mounting bracket.

I'm willing to accept that I'm wrong here if you can prove it; however, all of my research and all of the part numbers line up to say that there is no other differences in the IRO standard or double sheer track bars. Thus, making the comparison still valid.

If your standard and double sheer track bars are that drastically different, perhaps they shouldn't be. That's not a decision for me to make though.

In order to make my lift work without bending, hacking, or putting my alignment out, I had to wait 3 weeks, purchase parts from other vendors, and I incurred costs in other areas (mechanics looking at this issue and finding other ways to get around with my vehicle out of commission).

I can tell you I won't be making that same mistake again.

McCaffrey

Somebody might have mentioned this before but this looks fishy to me. All the ends standing parallel and vertical. I'll reiterate what I said before... manufacturing defect?

GRIMUS99XJ

the upper bend does not show in the picture that you diagrammed, you can see it slightly in the side shot of the three bars. Yes looking at it from that angle it would appear to be missing the bend therefore being a one off defect.

McCaffrey

I wouldn't say it's missing a bend. From the pics on the internet all the RC track bars appear to lay flat which means the 2 bends are in the same geometric plane. In this case they obviously are not. No one told the trainee that made this one he shouldn't allow the bar to rotate before putting in the second bend.

Bryan Covington

You need a heim joint for the threaded in which is the end that should be down in the axle mount , the rough country track bar came with a heim end on mine and showed it mounting in the axle mount I have a jeep xj 6in lift and my track bar would bind if it didn't have a heim joint end

Trumpster

Nice, Zombie thread after almost 4 years

My solution was to go with the IRO double sheer track bar and I've been rolling nicely ever since. If someone wants that RC track bar with ball joint it's still sitting in my garage taking up space. I'd be glad to ship it for a good price and get some space back!