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Old 03-02-2015, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by alpine.adrenaline
How do you replace a relay if it goes bad mounted in the box like that? Wouldn't you want the tops of the relays exposed, to pull straight up and out, with the wires underneath?
You could but the box would have to be much larger. It's easy enough to unhook the wires and slide it out. They're just hot glued together and to the bottom of the box. A little prying with a butter knife pops them right out.
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Originally Posted by alpine.adrenaline
One more thing we haven't mentioned yet- wire gauge. Make sure the wires you run can handle the amperage. See the table here:
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/am...uge-d_730.html


Hint: An Ethernet cable has 8 internal color-coded wires that are great as trigger wires for relays. Remember from an earlier post that relays need very little to switch. I've used this method to separate my fuse box and my switch box- running a single Ethernet wire through the firewall with the ability to control up to 8 accessories.
would it be ok to use this style of Relay
Amazon.com: E Support Car Relay 12v 80a Spst 4pin Socket Pack of 10: Automotive Amazon.com: E Support Car Relay 12v 80a Spst 4pin Socket Pack of 10: Automotive
They are 80A is that way to much or will it be fine for this application?
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Amazon.com: 20PCS FB-045U Type Black Plastic Case Cable Fuse Holder Block for Auto Car: Automotive Amazon.com: 20PCS FB-045U Type Black Plastic Case Cable Fuse Holder Block for Auto Car: Automotive

Amazon.com: E Support Car Relay 12v 40a Spst 4pin Pack of 10: Automotive Amazon.com: E Support Car Relay 12v 40a Spst 4pin Pack of 10: Automotive

Amazon.com : Absolute USA 5-Pin 12 VDC Interlocking Relay Socket with 12-Inch Lead, 5 Set : Vehicle Alarm Accessories : Car Electronics Amazon.com : Absolute USA 5-Pin 12 VDC Interlocking Relay Socket with 12-Inch Lead, 5 Set : Vehicle Alarm Accessories : Car Electronics

Amazon.com : Absolute USA RLS125-5 SPDT 30/40A 12 VCD Automotive Relay - 5 Pack : Vehicle Alarm Accessories : Car Electronics Amazon.com : Absolute USA RLS125-5 SPDT 30/40A 12 VCD Automotive Relay - 5 Pack : Vehicle Alarm Accessories : Car Electronics
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It won't hurt to use those. They look kinda cheap but other than that there's no reason you couldn't use them. 80A is referring to the amount of current they can handle. It's not like a fuse. I'd be willing to bet those won't actually handle any more current than your run of the mill 40A relay.
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Originally Posted by Lowrange2
It won't hurt to use those. They look kinda cheap but other than that there's no reason you couldn't use them. 80A is referring to the amount of current they can handle. It's not like a fuse. I'd be willing to bet those won't actually handle any more current than your run of the mill 40A relay.
Ok sounds good that's what I was guessing just didn't want to get ones that won't work. I'm kinda on a budget right now I figured I'd give these a try and just replace them as they fail or when I can pick better ones up. I'm putting them in a waterproof container so hopefully the elements won't affect their performance.
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I have a bunch of parts Jeeps sitting all over the yard so I just went around and robbed the PDC's of all the relays. lol
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I have a bunch of parts Jeeps sitting all over the yard so I just went around and robbed the PDC's of all the relays. lol
Ha yea I'm not lucky enough to have parts all over the place I don't even have a garage right now😲
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I don't have a garage either. Never have.
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Originally Posted by Lowrange2
It won't hurt to use those. They look kinda cheap but other than that there's no reason you couldn't use them. 80A is referring to the amount of current they can handle. It's not like a fuse. I'd be willing to bet those won't actually handle any more current than your run of the mill 40A relay.
if I'm using these 80a relays could I cut out the fuse between the battery and relay? Or would it be good to have one any way?
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Originally Posted by Lowrange2
It won't hurt to use those. They look kinda cheap but other than that there's no reason you couldn't use them. 80A is referring to the amount of current they can handle. It's not like a fuse. I'd be willing to bet those won't actually handle any more current than your run of the mill 40A relay.
If I'm using these 80a relays could I cut out the 30a fuse between the battery and the relay?
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I have been researching this myself, but instead of making the positive power switch on the relay by switches in the cab, I plan on completing the grounds on 86 on the relay to kick the relay on, then I don't have all those power wires going through the firewall... just grounds.. I am also looking adding an under hood relay/fuse box similar to what is in the Cherokee up front from the junkyard, there are many writeups on building Junkyard power distribution panels in the engine compartment. I also plan on using LAN CAT5 or CAT6 cable to go from the cab to the relays.

Edited: I redid the photo wiring diagrams and added notes plus wire gauge chart.

PS: Watts Divided by Volts Equals AMPS or W/V=A so 100 watt / 12 volts = 8.3 amps or (4) 100 watt lights = 33.3 amps - so 35+ amp wire, relay, and fuse is needed


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Originally Posted by MillerGT1551
If I'm using these 80a relays could I cut out the 30a fuse between the battery and the relay?
No. You still need to be fused correctly. Fusing protects the wiring and your device. Not the relay.

You may consider running a smaller fuse depending on the amperage draw from the accessories.

The only fusing you can get rid of is the fuse between your switch and the relay. Only one fuse per circuit is needed.
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Originally Posted by Lowrange2
No. You still need to be fused correctly. Fusing protects the wiring and your device. Not the relay. You may consider running a smaller fuse depending on the amperage draw from the accessories. The only fusing you can get rid of is the fuse between your switch and the relay. Only one fuse per circuit is needed.
Ok sounds good I will make sure I keep them in there!
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