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Old 01-11-2017, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Constantine
Perhaps you and I are the only two that realize this.
I also think that everyone overlooked that he's running CAD brackets.
Hell most UCA'S are too long for a CAD setup around the PO's height.
Just went back and looked. Yupp missed the CAD part! **** haha my bad
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Originally Posted by Martlor13
Just went back and looked. Yupp missed the CAD part! **** haha my bad
Man don't feel bad, I think most did.
Or they don't have any personal experience with them.
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I know I need both, but for now lowers will have to do. It doesn't drive horrible now, but not great. Eventually I'll get uppers too. Got the lowers coming in this week hopefully installed by next week
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Originally Posted by MWMahoneyJr
Two unhelpful responses in the same thread. Nice.
Uhhhh, its actually pretty spot on. His form of help, is going to require the proper parts...

Someone didn't do all their homework before adding a lift, and is getting to pay the price now. This is a pretty well known issue with trying to lift and use OEM control arms. You live and you learn...

Originally Posted by bad_idea
How in the hell would the upper arms solely be responsible for setting the pinion angle? The caster is adjusted by shimming the LCAs from the factory. The caster and the pinion angle are directly related, therefore the logic would tell me the pinion angle is adjusted by the LCAs from the factory.

I have 5" of lift with CAD brackets. I installed fixed length LCAs at 16 1/4" (stock are 15.75) and then shimmed the LCAs 3/8". That put my caster at a decent degree that drives nice. Still running the stock UCAs. Drive this thing to work every day and it handles quite well. Springs are straight up and down. 4WD works great at 40 mphs or so. Haven't had a reason to drive faster in 4WD. In 2WD it runs at 80 smooth with no vibes.
From the factory, as the uppers aren't really adjustable, you would be correct.

However, on most other suspension setups, it is usually regarded that the lowers set the axle (i.e. wheelbase), while the uppers set pinion angle (when both are adjustable).

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