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Old 06-18-2016, 08:50 PM
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Ok I have a 96 cherokee 4.0 I am curious about what performance options I have and what will the best be. Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated
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What type of performance are you looking for?
Supercharge
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Originally Posted by xjcrazy0346
Ok I have a 96 cherokee 4.0 I am curious about what performance options I have and what will the best be. Any and all suggestions will be greatly appreciated
And you post this in OEM tech???????????????

I'm moving it.
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Best performance investment will be regular oil and filter changes.
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Here's some real numbers-

Some trends that I have noticed-
Stock 4.0L- 135rwhp/160-165rwtq (crank 190HP/225TQ)
4.0L+'All the bolt on's' +15rwhp/+15rwtq to 150rwhp/175rwtq (crank 210HP/240TQ)
4.6L Stroker- displacement+CR(+15%)+cam(+8%)+head work(+7%)--195rwhp/245rwtq (crank 260HP/ 328TQ)
5.0L Stroker- (+10% over 4.6L) 208rwhp/280rwtq
4.0L+BOOST 6pounds- 210rwhp/265-275rwtq (crank 300HP/375TQ)
Stroker4.6L+?BOOST 4pounds +25%--->244rwhp/306rwtq(estimate) 325HP/410TQ(crank estimate)
Stroker4.6L+?BOOST 6pounds +37%--->267rwhp/335rwtq(estimate) 355HP/450TQ(crank estimate)

Dynojet reads 10% HIGHER than Mustang Dyno.

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Originally Posted by CobraMarty
Here's some real numbers-

Some trends that I have noticed-
Stock 4.0L- 135rwhp/160-165rwtq (crank 190HP/225TQ)
4.0L+'All the bolt on's' +15rwhp/+15rwtq to 150rwhp/175rwtq (crank 210HP/240TQ)
4.6L Stroker- displacement+CR(+15%)+cam(+8%)+head work(+7%)--195rwhp/245rwtq (crank 260HP/ 328TQ)
5.0L Stroker- (+10% over 4.6L) 208rwhp/280rwtq
4.0L+BOOST 6pounds- 210rwhp/265-275rwtq (crank 300HP/375TQ)
Stroker4.6L+?BOOST 4pounds +25%--->244rwhp/306rwtq(estimate) 325HP/410TQ(crank estimate)
Stroker4.6L+?BOOST 6pounds +37%--->267rwhp/335rwtq(estimate) 355HP/450TQ(crank estimate)

Dynojet reads 10% HIGHER than Mustang Dyno.

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Thanks for that info Marty I appreciate it. And as for wasting everyone's time I sorry I wasn't trying to. I just wanted some advice. I'm just looking for some more gas milage and maybe 10 to 35 hp gain kinda on a budget
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Budget and performance don't belong in the same sentence.
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Originally Posted by cruiser54
Budget and performance don't belong in the same sentence.
That's true but I work for a shop so I get a pretty good discount lol
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Bolt on's: more air in, more air out with enough fuel to keep up and a strong spark to burn it.

-true cold air intake (not a cone filter next to the exhaust)
-bored throttle body (larger butterfly valve)
-free flowing headers
-mandrel bend downpipe
-free flowing cat
-free flowing muffler-
-mandrel bent tailpipe
-4 hole injectors
-upgraded ignition to allow larger spark plug gap

So after all that you're like $1500 into upgrades for maybe 15hp. It's not worth it.

Do a stroker or v8 swap.
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[QUOTE=XJlimitedx99;3268224]Bolt on's: more air in, more air out with enough fuel to keep up and a strong spark to burn it.

-true cold air intake (not a cone filter next to the exhaust)
-bored throttle body (larger butterfly valve)
-free flowing headers
-mandrel bend downpipe
-free flowing cat
-free flowing muffler-
-mandrel bent tailpipe
-4 hole injectors
-upgraded ignition to allow larger spark plug gap

So after all that you're like $1500 into upgrades for maybe 15hp. It's not worth it.

Do a stroker or v8 swap.[/QUOTE
True that's a good point. i was thinking maybe a intske and a throttle bodie and a spacer maybe some headers. And injectors thays it not much just a little more juice ya know.thanks for the info xjlimited

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[QUOTE=xjcrazy0346;3268235]
Originally Posted by XJlimitedx99
Bolt on's: more air in, more air out with enough fuel to keep up and a strong spark to burn it.

-true cold air intake (not a cone filter next to the exhaust)
-bored throttle body (larger butterfly valve)
-free flowing headers
-mandrel bend downpipe
-free flowing cat
-free flowing muffler-
-mandrel bent tailpipe
-4 hole injectors
-upgraded ignition to allow larger spark plug gap

So after all that you're like $1500 into upgrades for maybe 15hp. It's not worth it.

Do a stroker or v8 swap.[/QUOTE
True that's a good point. i was thinking maybe a intske and a throttle bodie and a spacer maybe some headers. And injectors thays it not much just a little more juice ya know.thanks for the info xjlimited
Do not talk of cat removal on this site please. It is against federal law and against the rules here. I have edited your post to reflect that.
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If I might suggest a complete tune-up everything replaced after you have checked for any codes, if you have any fix those first. Then start with all new fluids from the radiator (get a new one and water pump), drain and replace differentials, trans, transfer case with new fluids. The oil and filter are a given and check and fix any oil leaks. This is where to start to gain a few HP and MPG.


Once you finish all of these then come back and we can help you with a few more but these should come first.


BTW forget about a spacer they are worthless and gain nothing.
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[QUOTE=roninofako;3268239]
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Do not talk of cat removal on this site please. It is against federal law and against the rules here. I have edited your post to reflect that.
Ok thanks I didnt do it actually it was gone when I bought it
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was this directed towards me? I understand that rule and why it's in place. Had no intention of recommending removing emissions equiptment.

Edit: never mind, I see now that it wasn't.
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