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I'd be more interested in them if they weren't a blatant JW Speaker design knockoff. It's a shame that Morimoto couldn't have made something genuine instead of this technically-not-a-counterfeit counterfeit.
Copying the outward appearance of a product like this is usually done so that the true quality of the original gets assumed for the knockoff when the knockoff's quality/performance would be found to be inferior upon close inspection.
I'd be more interested in them if they weren't a blatant JW Speaker design knockoff. It's a shame that Morimoto couldn't have made something genuine instead of this technically-not-a-counterfeit counterfeit.
Copying the outward appearance of a product like this is usually done so that the true quality of the original gets assumed for the knockoff when the knockoff's quality/performance would be found to be inferior upon close inspection.
Atleast the Morimotos have great cutoff and light output. Cant beat $75 a piece either! Ordered my set tonight.
If they build these lights like they build there projectors they are more than likely as good or probably better than the JWs. They set the bar for aftermarket lighting.
Atleast the Morimotos have great cutoff and light output. Cant beat $75 a piece either! Ordered my set tonight.
Cutoff does not necessarily a great headlight make.
Originally Posted by EatonXJ
If they build these lights like they build there projectors they are more than likely as good or probably better than the JWs. They set the bar for aftermarket lighting.
Do they really? I recommend Morimoto projectors to HID retrofitters because that's the simple/easiest solution. I certainly DO NOT recommend them because they're some sort of paragon of cutting edge lighting technology. I'm regularly tempted to remove them as a recommendation altogether to be honest. Ask any other lighting expert about Morimoto's stuff such as Dan Stern or the lighting geeks at CandlePowerForums. You're confusing a light that looks like a JW Speaker with one that performs like one. You're confusing sharp cutoff with good light.
Cutoff does not necessarily a great headlight make.
Do they really? I recommend Morimoto projectors to HID retrofitters because that's the simple/easiest solution. I certainly DO NOT recommend them because they're some sort of paragon of cutting edge lighting technology. I'm regularly tempted to remove them as a recommendation altogether to be honest. Ask any other lighting expert about Morimoto's stuff such as Dan Stern or the lighting geeks at CandlePowerForums. You're confusing a light that looks like a JW Speaker with one that performs like one. You're confusing sharp cutoff with good light.
What exactly is your definition of a good light? The Mirimotos have a good cut off, great light output with out producing hot spots like the trucklites do as shown by USN_BlackWK.
Do they really? I recommend Morimoto projectors to HID retrofitters because that's the simple/easiest solution. I certainly DO NOT recommend them because they're some sort of paragon of cutting edge lighting technology. I'm regularly tempted to remove them as a recommendation altogether to be honest. Ask any other lighting expert about Morimoto's stuff such as Dan Stern or the lighting geeks at CandlePowerForums. You're confusing a light that looks like a JW Speaker with one that performs like one. You're confusing sharp cutoff with good light.
I should of said projectors not lighting. My mistake. I've had 4 sets of Morimoto projectors over the years. Each one was better than the last. My comment about the 5x7 LEDs said "if they" because I have no personal experience with Morimoto LEDs but neither do you so our opinions on them are moot. I don't need to read post on CPF or from Daniel Stern about Morimoto HIDs because like I said I've been using them for years and have real experience with them not just reading and quoting post from some old timer that can't get with the program. HIDs are far superior to out dated halogen headlights. If you don't want to use them or recommend them that's your choice but don't tell me I am confusing a good cutoff for "good light" because you are sadly mistaken.
Some preliminary beamshots below. I am having trouble aiming the passenger side headlight because the plastic adjuster "nutsert" seems to be stripped and wont tighten inwards any more. Got them pretty close though.
Initial thoughts, the beam is not as wide or even as my HIDs. Not even close - kind of disappointing but I have forgotten how bad the stock halogen lights were and am a bit spoiled by the bi-xenon projectors.
All things considering, they are pretty good. Bright enough and the high-beam is quite bright and throws light FAR, a bit too far actually - I think the high-beam is aimed too high for my tastes but I haven't had it out on an actual public road yet. The distance might be nice, but at short range it really lights up the trees up high which is kind of distracting
Cutoff is nice and clean though - all I can really ask for at the price point.
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High (they don't look that high in this pic, but they are quite a bit higher than I prefer)
Some preliminary beamshots below. I am having trouble aiming the passenger side headlight because the plastic adjuster "nutsert" seems to be stripped and wont tighten inwards any more. Got them pretty close though.
Initial thoughts, the beam is not as wide or even as my HIDs. Not even close - kind of disappointing but I have forgotten how bad the stock halogen lights were and am a bit spoiled by the bi-xenon projectors.
All things considering, they are pretty good. Bright enough and the high-beam is quite bright and throws light FAR, a bit too far actually - I think the high-beam is aimed too high for my tastes but I haven't had it out on an actual public road yet. The distance might be nice, but at short range it really lights up the trees up high which is kind of distracting
Cutoff is nice and clean though - all I can really ask for at the price point.
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High (they don't look that high in this pic, but they are quite a bit higher than I prefer)
A rock hit one of my lenses and shattered it.
I still have the headlights but I honestly had so many small issues with the HID Setup.
Wiring, relay issues, etc. And the headlights werent 100% sealed and I was always afraid of filling them up with water.
I definitely miss the bi-xenons though. I think my XJ is better off with some sealed LED's though.
That is until I move back to Denver at some point, then I might need to splurge on the JW Speaker Gen 2's with heated lenses.
A rock hit one of my lenses and shattered it.
I still have the headlights but I honestly had so many small issues with the HID Setup.
Wiring, relay issues, etc. And the headlights werent 100% sealed and I was always afraid of filling them up with water.
I definitely miss the bi-xenons though. I think my XJ is better off with some sealed LED's though.
That is until I move back to Denver at some point, then I might need to splurge on the JW Speaker Gen 2's with heated lenses.
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i have og jw speakers in wifes xj along with knockoff 9.5" arb led lights
ive got stock halogen with 9.5" lightforce modded with 100w HID
same deal, the hid is 1000x brighter, but everynow and then,they just stop working lol.....always 300 miles from home, no tools
that said, i just ordered the stuff to put hids into my car.
i have og jw speakers in wifes xj along with knockoff 9.5" arb led lights
ive got stock halogen with 9.5" lightforce modded with 100w HID
same deal, the hid is 1000x brighter, but everynow and then,they just stop working lol.....always 300 miles from home, no tools
that said, i just ordered the stuff to put hids into my car.
Usually during a blizzard for me, sometimes while traversing a mountain pass in a complete whiteout LOL
But usually after working a 14 hr day and heading home after its already dark
Most of the time I was able to get one or the other working if not both, but still a hassle. My China LED's have been 100% reliable, but I am no longer running a relay (they are only ~25w each I assume)
03-24-2017, 04:03 PM
