Just how rare is a 5 speed 4.0 XJ, and am I getting a fair deal?
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Just how rare is a 5 speed 4.0 XJ, and am I getting a fair deal?
I have been searching high and low for a 5 speed XJ on craigslist, dealer lots, etc. forever and they are so few and far between (from what I've seen). I finally found one from a sort of neighbor, its a '99 5 speed 4.0 4 door. EXACTLY what I've been looking for! He wants $1,200 and is pretty firm on the price. It has 200k on the odometer, but I'm not worried about that, 4.0's run forever. I am working minimum wage at a hardware store so this will do some damage to my bank account, I don't want to get burned.
The bad:
Rear hatch and drivers rear door wont open
Check engine light (owner claims O2 sensor)
Needs driver and passenger floor pans
Owner claims it sometimes "bucks" in 2nd but I didn't notice it
Needs a serious brake overhaul
Rattle from exhaust, probably a loose clamp
I'm not sure if I'm getting a good deal here, but it runs and drives good, goes straight down the road and doesn't seem to have any serious problems. It's lifted 2 inches and comes with two good sets of tires. I have the tools and the know how so I could do all the work myself, and I know a guy who is a big wig at a auto parts store so I can get shop prices or close to it. I've really fallen in love and I'll try to get pictures soon but I'm away until Saturday. What do you guys think?? Thanks for any and all input.
The bad:
Rear hatch and drivers rear door wont open
Check engine light (owner claims O2 sensor)
Needs driver and passenger floor pans
Owner claims it sometimes "bucks" in 2nd but I didn't notice it
Needs a serious brake overhaul
Rattle from exhaust, probably a loose clamp
I'm not sure if I'm getting a good deal here, but it runs and drives good, goes straight down the road and doesn't seem to have any serious problems. It's lifted 2 inches and comes with two good sets of tires. I have the tools and the know how so I could do all the work myself, and I know a guy who is a big wig at a auto parts store so I can get shop prices or close to it. I've really fallen in love and I'll try to get pictures soon but I'm away until Saturday. What do you guys think?? Thanks for any and all input.
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Most of the time when an owner says it's the "O2 sensor," it's not. Because you can replace them over and over again and it seems to never take care of the CEL problem. So something else could be wrong or he would have replaced it already.
It seems to be a pretty rare combo. $1200 might be a good deal if you want to fix everything. A ratting exhaust is typically a quick fix, as is a rear door that won't open.
But floor pans means rust, right? Chances are, you'll need a lot of time and money and welding skills to fix that, so you might as well buy another XJ at that point. Maybe you could swap the stuff over to a new one?
It seems to be a pretty rare combo. $1200 might be a good deal if you want to fix everything. A ratting exhaust is typically a quick fix, as is a rear door that won't open.
But floor pans means rust, right? Chances are, you'll need a lot of time and money and welding skills to fix that, so you might as well buy another XJ at that point. Maybe you could swap the stuff over to a new one?
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i haven't run across too many 5 speeds around here. that one sounds like a parts jeep to me.. stay away from the rusty ones.
anyone you know have a code reader? couldn't hurt to see what codes its shooting.
anyone you know have a code reader? couldn't hurt to see what codes its shooting.
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Most of the time when an owner says it's the "O2 sensor," it's not. Because you can replace them over and over again and it seems to never take care of the CEL problem. So something else could be wrong or he would have replaced it already.
It seems to be a pretty rare combo. $1200 might be a good deal if you want to fix everything. A ratting exhaust is typically a quick fix, as is a rear door that won't open.
But floor pans means rust, right? Chances are, you'll need a lot of time and money and welding skills to fix that, so you might as well buy another XJ at that point. Maybe you could swap the stuff over to a new one?
It seems to be a pretty rare combo. $1200 might be a good deal if you want to fix everything. A ratting exhaust is typically a quick fix, as is a rear door that won't open.
But floor pans means rust, right? Chances are, you'll need a lot of time and money and welding skills to fix that, so you might as well buy another XJ at that point. Maybe you could swap the stuff over to a new one?
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Chiming in about the "O2 sensor" problem again.
The scanners aren't perfect and they throw O2 sensor codes all the time on 4.0Ls. Ask me how I know.
After replacing both upstream and downstream several times, I finally gave up on the CEL.
That's why I think it's something else.
The scanners aren't perfect and they throw O2 sensor codes all the time on 4.0Ls. Ask me how I know.
After replacing both upstream and downstream several times, I finally gave up on the CEL.
That's why I think it's something else.
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Again it's impossible to stay away from the rusty ones in my neck of the woods.
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Chiming in about the "O2 sensor" problem again.
The scanners aren't perfect and they throw O2 sensor codes all the time on 4.0Ls. Ask me how I know.
After replacing both upstream and downstream several times, I finally gave up on the CEL.
That's why I think it's something else.
The scanners aren't perfect and they throw O2 sensor codes all the time on 4.0Ls. Ask me how I know.
After replacing both upstream and downstream several times, I finally gave up on the CEL.
That's why I think it's something else.
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Has the clutch ever been done?
If the rust isn't too bad (I'm in NH, I know how that goes haha) and everything else seem to be in decent shape then I think it's a good deal and would jump on it quick before somebody else does.
If the rust isn't too bad (I'm in NH, I know how that goes haha) and everything else seem to be in decent shape then I think it's a good deal and would jump on it quick before somebody else does.
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so the rust is no big deal and the CEL is no big deal. whats the issue then? sounds like you have your mind set on it and decided you are buying it no matter what anyone says here.
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The clutch is one thing I'm kinda worried about, if it's original it's probably pretty wasted at 200k miles. I'm in Maine until saturday so I will think on it for a little while.
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they are a little harder to find nowadays, but not rare. The only thing that really would deter me there is the rust, I have spent countless hours fixing it, cutting pieces off and putting patches back on. I intent to drive it as long as it is not unsafe, meaning structural rust in the important bracketry. I bought mine on ebay a bunch of years ago because I was looking for a 5sp. Only thing about them that blows is the gearing.
anyway for 1200 your not gonna get much else.
anyway for 1200 your not gonna get much else.